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	<title>Comments on: Flickr vs. SmugMug - a comparison of the picture services</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-480869</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik,

I don't know, to be honest - I've never tried those services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know, to be honest - I&#8217;ve never tried those services.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-480815</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, very interesting talk here. Still hesitating Smugmul or Flickr
One question, Wat about the service the give, (photo printing , backup on DVD ets......) when you live in Europe ?  Will the send to mi  home ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, very interesting talk here. Still hesitating Smugmul or Flickr<br />
One question, Wat about the service the give, (photo printing , backup on <acronym title="Digital Video Disc">DVD</acronym> ets&#8230;&#8230;) when you live in Europe ?  Will the send to mi  home ?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-465044</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennifer,

You do that! :-)

Sean,

Great, I'm really glad it was useful for you! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer,</p>
<p>You do that! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sean,</p>
<p>Great, I&#8217;m really glad it was useful for you! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sean Cowen</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-464615</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean Cowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

Fantastic comparison and information. I have been on the fence for some time in regards to SmugMug, mainly due to price. I have always appreciated their quality and professional appearance and your notes helped me jump that fence today.

I take and upload on average about 1.5-2.5k pictures a week for online auctions on eBay (ohiobazaar) and for Bonanzle &#38;c. And I have had some troubles with using photobucket, my primary host. It seems they are forever bogged down with ads and videos that they insist on playing during every single upload. That is a huge negative for me due to the volume I'm sending, and the fact that my computer must crash ten times a day during their uploads.

I just did the quick sign-up with SmugMug and happily saw that they have a direct link available for Picasa. You can easily send your photos directly to SM. I took about 20 minutes and sent roughly 65 pictures - woohoo! Now, I'm on a farm using a local satellite hookup and I was still able to quickly upload - so I am ecstatic right now. And on top of everything mentioned, the pictures can be sized any way you like and they look sharp. 

Robert, you are the man...

Brad, as of today, 10-16, that 1/2 price code worked. Thank you for that. Price was my first consideration and this helped considerably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>Fantastic comparison and information. I have been on the fence for some time in regards to SmugMug, mainly due to price. I have always appreciated their quality and professional appearance and your notes helped me jump that fence today.</p>
<p>I take and upload on average about 1.5-2.5k pictures a week for online auctions on eBay (ohiobazaar) and for Bonanzle &amp;c. And I have had some troubles with using photobucket, my primary host. It seems they are forever bogged down with ads and videos that they insist on playing during every single upload. That is a huge negative for me due to the volume I&#8217;m sending, and the fact that my computer must crash ten times a day during their uploads.</p>
<p>I just did the quick sign-up with SmugMug and happily saw that they have a direct link available for Picasa. You can easily send your photos directly to SM. I took about 20 minutes and sent roughly 65 pictures - woohoo! Now, I&#8217;m on a farm using a local satellite hookup and I was still able to quickly upload - so I am ecstatic right now. And on top of everything mentioned, the pictures can be sized any way you like and they look sharp. </p>
<p>Robert, you are the man&#8230;</p>
<p>Brad, as of today, 10-16, that 1/2 price code worked. Thank you for that. Price was my first consideration and this helped considerably.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Edmondson</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-434488</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Edmondson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, nice plug ;)

I actually checked that out, and may play around with it. But at the end of the day my  website is my programming sandbox... Its main purpose is for me to have fun programming and its secondary purpose is the content ;)

So once I get down and dirty with Javascript (something I've been reluctant to do... haha! But recently have decided to look more into) &#38; familarise myself with the syntax &#38; some of the js libraries, I'll perhaps be more willing to come back and give it a spin :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, nice plug <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I actually checked that out, and may play around with it. But at the end of the day my  website is my programming sandbox&#8230; Its main purpose is for me to have fun programming and its secondary purpose is the content <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So once I get down and dirty with Javascript (something I&#8217;ve been reluctant to do&#8230; haha! But recently have decided to look more into) &amp; familarise myself with the syntax &amp; some of the js libraries, I&#8217;ll perhaps be more willing to come back and give it a spin <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-433850</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad,

Absolutely, thanks for mentioning that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,</p>
<p>Absolutely, thanks for mentioning that!</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-433813</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If price matters, join smugmug with the promo code flickr and the memberships are all half price.  It was still active last week when I joined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If price matters, join smugmug with the promo code flickr and the memberships are all half price.  It was still active last week when I joined.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-433656</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

Thanks for visiting!
Yeah, AlbumFetcher for Mac would be great to have. 

I do know about your video advancements, and in time, perhaps it will be the first choice for video clips as well. What currently gets to me is the time limitation. Sure, you've got to have a limitation, but IMHO it should be perhaps 15 minutes or so, to be interesting.

Steven,

Hope Santa's listening. :-)
For me at least, SmugMug delivered in the areas where I was less pleased with Flickr.

Jennifer,

Well, perhaps I can lure you in to use &lt;a href="http://www.robertnyman.com/picture-slides/" rel="nofollow"&gt;PictureSlides&lt;/a&gt; for now on your own web site, and when you're ready, I'd recommend SmugMug. :-)

Grant,

As long as you're content, that's what's most important.

Nick,

Thank you!
And yeah, good tip. At the time, I just couldn't bother...

Marien,

It is mentioned in the blog post. Personally, I prefer to regularly upload to both services, than just one and using SmuggLr every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>Thanks for visiting!<br />
Yeah, AlbumFetcher for Mac would be great to have. </p>
<p>I do know about your video advancements, and in time, perhaps it will be the first choice for video clips as well. What currently gets to me is the time limitation. Sure, you&#8217;ve got to have a limitation, but IMHO it should be perhaps 15 minutes or so, to be interesting.</p>
<p>Steven,</p>
<p>Hope Santa&#8217;s listening. <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
For me at least, SmugMug delivered in the areas where I was less pleased with Flickr.</p>
<p>Jennifer,</p>
<p>Well, perhaps I can lure you in to use <a href="http://www.robertnyman.com/picture-slides/" rel="nofollow">PictureSlides</a> for now on your own web site, and when you&#8217;re ready, I&#8217;d recommend SmugMug. <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Grant,</p>
<p>As long as you&#8217;re content, that&#8217;s what&#8217;s most important.</p>
<p>Nick,</p>
<p>Thank you!<br />
And yeah, good tip. At the time, I just couldn&#8217;t bother&#8230;</p>
<p>Marien,</p>
<p>It is mentioned in the blog post. Personally, I prefer to regularly upload to both services, than just one and using SmuggLr every time.</p>
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		<title>By: Marien</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-433271</link>
		<dc:creator>Marien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's an excellent firefox add-on aka extension called smugglr http://www.smugglr.net/. With this extension you can sync photos to your smugmug account...(not only from flickr)...
This way you only have to upload once to flickr...hmm although that's not your preferred upload account... I use http://connectedflow.com/flickrexport/iphoto/ which is quite a nice uploadr for flickr although it will cost you $12...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an excellent firefox add-on aka extension called smugglr <a href="http://www.smugglr.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.smugglr.net/</a>. With this extension you can sync photos to your smugmug account&#8230;(not only from flickr)&#8230;<br />
This way you only have to upload once to flickr&#8230;hmm although that&#8217;s not your preferred upload account&#8230; I use <a href="http://connectedflow.com/flickrexport/iphoto/" rel="nofollow">http://connectedflow.com/flickrexport/iphoto/</a> which is quite a nice uploadr for flickr although it will cost you $12&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Fitzsimons</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-433239</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Fitzsimons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very informative comparison - I'll have to have a closer look at SmugMug.

Picking up on one of the least important aspects of the story (would you expect anything less? ;-)):

&lt;blockquote cite="http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/"&gt;(impossible to get a link to Windows version if I’m on a Mac…  :-()&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...if you're using Safari, enable the "Develop" menu (Safari-&#62;Preferences-&#62;Advanced-&#62;"Show Develop menu" checkbox at the bottom) and you can then set your User Agent to be something suitably Windowsy. The selected UA only applies to the current tab, so it shouldn't affect other aspects of your browsing.

This usually works for me when I'm trying to get a Windows download without firing up a virtual machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very informative comparison - I&#8217;ll have to have a closer look at SmugMug.</p>
<p>Picking up on one of the least important aspects of the story (would you expect anything less? ;-)):</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/"><p>(impossible to get a link to Windows version if I’m on a Mac…  :-()</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;if you&#8217;re using Safari, enable the &#8220;Develop&#8221; menu (Safari-&gt;Preferences-&gt;Advanced-&gt;&#8221;Show Develop menu&#8221; checkbox at the bottom) and you can then set your User Agent to be something suitably Windowsy. The selected UA only applies to the current tab, so it shouldn&#8217;t affect other aspects of your browsing.</p>
<p>This usually works for me when I&#8217;m trying to get a Windows download without firing up a virtual machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant Palin</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-432564</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant Palin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting comparison. I just recently signed up on Flickr and added some photos - don't know why I put it off for so long. I haven't had any troubles with it so far. The Uploader program for Windows XP works well for me, I find it a handy way to keep images organized when uploading. And the online configuration for sets/collections, as well basic image editing, all works for me.

I did look at other options, including SmugMug, and concluded that Flickr seems to be the foremost choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting comparison. I just recently signed up on Flickr and added some photos - don&#8217;t know why I put it off for so long. I haven&#8217;t had any troubles with it so far. The Uploader program for Windows XP works well for me, I find it a handy way to keep images organized when uploading. And the online configuration for sets/collections, as well basic image editing, all works for me.</p>
<p>I did look at other options, including SmugMug, and concluded that Flickr seems to be the foremost choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Edmondson</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-432456</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Edmondson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and by comparing your two links, I like the presentation and flow of the SmugMug one right away. It's immediately classier. Plus, I've always found navigation on Flickr to be a bit fiddly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and by comparing your two links, I like the presentation and flow of the SmugMug one right away. It&#8217;s immediately classier. Plus, I&#8217;ve always found navigation on Flickr to be a bit fiddly.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Edmondson</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-432454</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer Edmondson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting :)

At this stage in my life, being a student and all, the price sadly matters most :( Having said that, I have a Flickr account but I only use it to check up on photos that my friends and others have put up. I've only put one up myself. I guess it's a community thing - only a couple of acquaintances use Flickr, so travel photos tend to get placed on my own website (with its currently primitive photo album system... hahaha) and social photos on Facebook.

Sad? Maybe :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>At this stage in my life, being a student and all, the price sadly matters most <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> Having said that, I have a Flickr account but I only use it to check up on photos that my friends and others have put up. I&#8217;ve only put one up myself. I guess it&#8217;s a community thing - only a couple of acquaintances use Flickr, so travel photos tend to get placed on my own website (with its currently primitive photo album system&#8230; hahaha) and social photos on Facebook.</p>
<p>Sad? Maybe <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: David Naylor</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-432365</link>
		<dc:creator>David Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I very recently did &lt;a href="http://davidnaylor.org/blog/2008/09/flickr-vs-picasa-best-of-two-worlds.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;a comparison between Flickr and Picasa&lt;/a&gt;. Haven't read yours yet though so I don't know if we arrived at similar conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very recently did <a href="http://davidnaylor.org/blog/2008/09/flickr-vs-picasa-best-of-two-worlds.html" rel="nofollow">a comparison between Flickr and Picasa</a>. Haven&#8217;t read yours yet though so I don&#8217;t know if we arrived at similar conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-432352</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've tended to avoid Flickr - there I've outed myself. I put up a half a dozen photos once but never went there again. Although I do take a lot of photos at times.

[NIKON Santa, if you are listening that's a D90 for Xmas right?]

It's interesting what you say about it not being the most points in your comparison but the ones that matter most. That's a pearl of wisdom that can be applied to a lot of web development / interface design, too. Discover the features that users really value and how they want to use them.

I might check out the trial on SmugMug - I actually didn't get sold on Flickr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve tended to avoid Flickr - there I&#8217;ve outed myself. I put up a half a dozen photos once but never went there again. Although I do take a lot of photos at times.</p>
<p>[NIKON Santa, if you are listening that's a D90 for Xmas right?]</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting what you say about it not being the most points in your comparison but the ones that matter most. That&#8217;s a pearl of wisdom that can be applied to a lot of web development / interface design, too. Discover the features that users really value and how they want to use them.</p>
<p>I might check out the trial on SmugMug - I actually didn&#8217;t get sold on Flickr.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-432318</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, awesome write up, thanks!   AlbumFetcher is awesome for re-downloading (PC Only so I'm guessing you may not have seen it).... SmugDav for Mac works for most folks, it can be a bit quirky and I agree, version of AlbumFetcher for Mac would be wonderful.    

Video?  Over the past year we've made a huge commitment to it and we're going even further.  &lt;a href="http://vincentlaforet.smugmug.com/gallery/6021407_xEg87#378608891_Jd2CT-XL-LB" rel="nofollow"&gt;Check this out&lt;/a&gt; and more &lt;a href="http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/09/22/amazing-canon-5d-mkii-hd-video-footage/" rel="nofollow"&gt;in our CEO's Blog&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, awesome write up, thanks!   AlbumFetcher is awesome for re-downloading (PC Only so I&#8217;m guessing you may not have seen it)&#8230;. SmugDav for Mac works for most folks, it can be a bit quirky and I agree, version of AlbumFetcher for Mac would be wonderful.    </p>
<p>Video?  Over the past year we&#8217;ve made a huge commitment to it and we&#8217;re going even further.  <a href="http://vincentlaforet.smugmug.com/gallery/6021407_xEg87#378608891_Jd2CT-XL-LB" rel="nofollow">Check this out</a> and more <a href="http://blogs.smugmug.com/don/2008/09/22/amazing-canon-5d-mkii-hd-video-footage/" rel="nofollow">in our CEO&#8217;s Blog</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/09/23/flickr-vs-smugmug-a-comparison-of-the-picture-services/#comment-432231</link>
		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What i really like about smugmug is the fantastic friendly logo. Its pure love.

Smugmug uses amazon s3 for storage (and ec2 for other stuff) so its wierd that there's no good download support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What i really like about smugmug is the fantastic friendly logo. Its pure love.</p>
<p>Smugmug uses amazon s3 for storage (and ec2 for other stuff) so its wierd that there&#8217;s no good download support.</p>
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