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	<title>Comments on: Styling BUTTONS, and achieving sliding doors with them</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-393082</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 19:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Biran,

Cool, thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biran,</p>
<p>Cool, thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>By: Biran</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-392743</link>
		<dc:creator>Biran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 14:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a button adapter for ASP.NET that converts the asp:button control to use the button element. Now you can have functionality and sexy...

&lt;a href="http://www.delphicsage.com/home/blog.aspx?d=239&#38;title=Convert_Your_ASP:Button_Controls_to_Sliding_Doors_Styled_Button_Elements" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.delphicsage.com/home/blog.aspx?d=239&#38;title=Convert_Your_ASP:Button_Controls_to_Sliding_Doors_Styled_Button_Elements&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a button adapter for ASP.NET that converts the asp:button control to use the button element. Now you can have functionality and sexy&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.delphicsage.com/home/blog.aspx?d=239&amp;title=Convert_Your_ASP:Button_Controls_to_Sliding_Doors_Styled_Button_Elements" rel="nofollow">http://www.delphicsage.com/home/blog.aspx?d=239&amp;title=Convert_Your_ASP:Button_Controls_to_Sliding_Doors_Styled_Button_Elements</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-237302</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 08:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jens,

That's great! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jens,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s great! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Wedin</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-237264</link>
		<dc:creator>Jens Wedin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 07:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I´ve made a quick demo with flexible buttons after reading this post. You can check it out at:
http://jedisthlm.com/2008/03/27/flexible-css-buttons/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I´ve made a quick demo with flexible buttons after reading this post. You can check it out at:<br />
<a href="http://jedisthlm.com/2008/03/27/flexible-css-buttons/" rel="nofollow">http://jedisthlm.com/2008/03/27/flexible-<acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym>-buttons/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-232724</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niklas,

Thanks!
And, no plans. But resizable text will work to a certain extent with this solution, depending on the chosen height and background image size.

A simple solution to make that better is to have a footer element within the &lt;code&gt;button&lt;/code&gt; which will in turn have an image which is the entire footer image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niklas,</p>
<p>Thanks!<br />
And, no plans. But resizable text will work to a certain extent with this solution, depending on the chosen height and background image size.</p>
<p>A simple solution to make that better is to have a footer element within the <code>button</code> which will in turn have an image which is the entire footer image.</p>
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		<title>By: Niklas</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-232718</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is really cool! Do you have any plans on taking the next step with this? And by that I mean to make it work with resizeable text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really cool! Do you have any plans on taking the next step with this? And by that I mean to make it work with resizeable text.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-232692</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andres,

Thanks for the tip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andres,</p>
<p>Thanks for the tip!</p>
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		<title>By: Andres</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-232356</link>
		<dc:creator>Andres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey i thought you guys might like this soup of buttons. I've been working on this for a while now, and up to now, no one has reported any new bugs. I think it's ready for a stable release... Let me know what you think...

&lt;a href="http://www.cssbuttons.net" title="CSS Buttons" rel="nofollow"&gt;CSSButtons.net &lt;/a&gt;

Thank you!!
email me at [projects@dpinyc.com]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey i thought you guys might like this soup of buttons. I&#8217;ve been working on this for a while now, and up to now, no one has reported any new bugs. I think it&#8217;s ready for a stable release&#8230; Let me know what you think&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cssbuttons.net" title="CSS Buttons" rel="nofollow">CSSButtons.net </a></p>
<p>Thank you!!<br />
email me at [projects@dpinyc.com]</p>
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		<title>By: RUDEWORKS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUDEWORKS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 09:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   Robert Nyman nos proporciona una buena manera de dar estilo al elemento &#60;button&#62;. El único problema son [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]   Robert Nyman nos proporciona una buena manera de dar estilo al elemento &lt;button&gt;. El único problema son [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-231775</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolf,

By setting &lt;code&gt;border: none;&lt;/code&gt; or &lt;code&gt;border: 0;&lt;/code&gt; in the CSS code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolf,</p>
<p>By setting <code>border: none;</code> or <code>border: 0;</code> in the <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> code.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, how do I get rid of the dreaded black border in IE6 and IE7?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, how do I get rid of the dreaded black border in IE6 and IE7?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-230343</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guilherme,

Thank you! :-)
And I agree, many elements don't have specifically semantic names...

&lt;blockquote&gt;
If I was to hate tags based on control I couldn’t support HTML at all until [guess-who] version 6 and previous were dead and buried (and possible further versions as well) :-)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Ha ha! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guilherme,</p>
<p>Thank you! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
And I agree, many elements don&#8217;t have specifically semantic names&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>
If I was to hate tags based on control I couldn’t support <acronym title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</acronym> at all until [guess-who] version 6 and previous were dead and buried (and possible further versions as well) <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
</p></blockquote>
<p>Ha ha! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Guilherme Zühlke O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-230325</link>
		<dc:creator>Guilherme Zühlke O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, that new solution of yours is way cooler, IMO.

I agree with you that is horrible not being able to control elements, but still I like the semantic meaning of the tag. I wish other input elements could have a tag for themselves like &#60;button&#62; and &#60;textarea&#62;.

If I was to hate tags based on control I couldn't support HTML at all until [guess-who] version 6 and previous were dead and buried (and possible further versions as well) :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, that new solution of yours is way cooler, IMO.</p>
<p>I agree with you that is horrible not being able to control elements, but still I like the semantic meaning of the tag. I wish other input elements could have a tag for themselves like &lt;button&gt; and &lt;textarea&gt;.</p>
<p>If I was to hate tags based on control I couldn&#8217;t support <acronym title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</acronym> at all until [guess-who] version 6 and previous were dead and buried (and possible further versions as well) <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-230196</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guilherme,

I do like the &lt;code&gt;button&lt;/code&gt; element, as long as I can control it. :-)

Thanks for the link, it was great inpsiration! I analyzed it, and revised/rewrote my code to have the &lt;code&gt;span&lt;/code&gt; element within the &lt;code&gt;button&lt;/code&gt;, and ironed out a bug they seemd to have with IE.

Please try &lt;a href="http://www.robertnyman.com/test/styling-buttons/button-styling.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;the updated demo&lt;/a&gt;.

kimblim,

That doesn't sound good. Do you have any examples in which, and what happens?

Andy,

In IE 6, it sends the &lt;code&gt;innerHTML&lt;/code&gt; of every button in that form, in IE 7, it sends the &lt;code&gt;innerHTML&lt;/code&gt; of the clicked button.

I think it's safe to have multiple butons, as long as you don't expect to read any value from it, or take any specific action on what button was clicked.

Morgan,

I agree overall, but sometimes the gain of doing it can't be overlooked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guilherme,</p>
<p>I do like the <code>button</code> element, as long as I can control it. <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Thanks for the link, it was great inpsiration! I analyzed it, and revised/rewrote my code to have the <code>span</code> element within the <code>button</code>, and ironed out a bug they seemd to have with <acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym>.</p>
<p>Please try <a href="http://www.robertnyman.com/test/styling-buttons/button-styling.html" rel="nofollow">the updated demo</a>.</p>
<p>kimblim,</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t sound good. Do you have any examples in which, and what happens?</p>
<p>Andy,</p>
<p>In <acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym> 6, it sends the <code>innerHTML</code> of every button in that form, in <acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym> 7, it sends the <code>innerHTML</code> of the clicked button.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s safe to have multiple butons, as long as you don&#8217;t expect to read any value from it, or take any specific action on what button was clicked.</p>
<p>Morgan,</p>
<p>I agree overall, but sometimes the gain of doing it can&#8217;t be overlooked.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Roderick</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-230188</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Roderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I am not much for styling form elements, but prefer to leave that up to the browser. But, for those situations, where you have to style them, it's great to have another tool in the toolbox.

Thanks for sharing Robert :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I am not much for styling form elements, but prefer to leave that up to the browser. But, for those situations, where you have to style them, it&#8217;s great to have another tool in the toolbox.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing Robert <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: nortypig &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Styling Form Buttons into Sliding Doors</title>
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		<dc:creator>nortypig &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Styling Form Buttons into Sliding Doors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nyman has posted an informative article on styling form buttons into sliding doors and explains why you may want to consider [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andy Ford</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-229780</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Ford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If there are several button elements in a form it will post the values for all of them, and not just the one that was clicked.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which value?  The value of the &lt;code&gt;innerHTML&lt;/code&gt; or the value of the &lt;code&gt;value&lt;/code&gt; attribute?

Is there a safe way to have multiple button elements in a form in IE?

Either way, it's a bummer that IE is such a steamy pile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If there are several button elements in a form it will post the values for all of them, and not just the one that was clicked.</p></blockquote>
<p>Which value?  The value of the <code>innerHTML</code> or the value of the <code>value</code> attribute?</p>
<p>Is there a safe way to have multiple button elements in a form in <acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym>?</p>
<p>Either way, it&#8217;s a bummer that <acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym> is such a steamy pile.</p>
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		<title>By: kimblim</title>
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		<dc:creator>kimblim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the button-element, but unfortunately it doesn't work in all mobile browsers, and that is a big accessability problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the button-element, but unfortunately it doesn&#8217;t work in all mobile browsers, and that is a big accessability problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Guilherme Zühlke O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2008/03/13/styling-buttons-and-achieving-sliding-doors-with-them/#comment-229656</link>
		<dc:creator>Guilherme Zühlke O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I like the button element because it detaches a bit the button from a generic &#60;input&#62; element (after all, there is a world of difference between a "hidden", a "button", a "text" and many other elements ;)). I like to be able to semantically distinguish them in their nature.

Further, I like the fact that the button has content, this makes a lot of sense to me. You have a button that does something when clicked, and it can have content of its own... well, almost, since the implementations are not all that flexible and it is hard to style it, but is hard to style &#60;input&#62; elements either, so I like buttons that are &#60;button&#62;.

Now, it seems there is &lt;a href="http://www.filamentgroup.com/lab/styling_the_button_element_with_sliding_doors/" rel="nofollow"&gt;a solution&lt;/a&gt; with the span inside of the button element which is presented by FilamentGroup.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I like the button element because it detaches a bit the button from a generic &lt;input&gt; element (after all, there is a world of difference between a &#8220;hidden&#8221;, a &#8220;button&#8221;, a &#8220;text&#8221; and many other elements ;)). I like to be able to semantically distinguish them in their nature.</p>
<p>Further, I like the fact that the button has content, this makes a lot of sense to me. You have a button that does something when clicked, and it can have content of its own&#8230; well, almost, since the implementations are not all that flexible and it is hard to style it, but is hard to style &lt;input&gt; elements either, so I like buttons that are &lt;button&gt;.</p>
<p>Now, it seems there is <a href="http://www.filamentgroup.com/lab/styling_the_button_element_with_sliding_doors/" rel="nofollow">a solution</a> with the span inside of the button element which is presented by FilamentGroup.com.</p>
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