Comments on: Ving.se being Sweden’s best web site? I think not http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/ Web development and Internet trends Tue, 06 Jan 2009 08:12:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Rolf http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-166022 Rolf Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:08:57 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-166022 and really bad to buy http://www.vingkund.se because an earlier customer, now in wheelchair, has published http://www.vingkund.com/en/main.htm . David against Goliath ! and really bad to buy http://www.vingkund.se because an earlier customer, now in wheelchair, has published http://www.vingkund.com/en/main.htm .

David against Goliath !

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-159054 Robert Nyman Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:42:27 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-159054 Reine, Yes, small fiont sizes and poor resizing handling seem to go hand in hand. :-) Reine,

Yes, small fiont sizes and poor resizing handling seem to go hand in hand. :-)

]]> By: Reine Larsson http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-158764 Reine Larsson Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:55:24 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-158764 Just unbelievable. I nearly fell off the chair by this so called award. And it is always the sites with tiny unreadable fontsizes that fail so utterly at text resizing. Hilarious. Just unbelievable. I nearly fell off the chair by this so called award.

And it is always the sites with tiny unreadable fontsizes that fail so utterly at text resizing. Hilarious.

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-157518 Robert Nyman Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:55:45 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-157518 Jens, They're trying to cut costs, I guess, and hope people will go ahead and book. Although I completely agree that it should be possible to order a paper catalog from a travel web site, for whatever reason you want it. Jens,

They’re trying to cut costs, I guess, and hope people will go ahead and book. Although I completely agree that it should be possible to order a paper catalog from a travel web site, for whatever reason you want it.

]]> By: jens persson http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-157272 jens persson Fri, 07 Dec 2007 08:05:42 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-157272 On a usability note: Some weeks ago I tried to order a catalogue from ving.se, so that I could browse for travels without using the computer, and I could not find a way to do it via the homepage. The only way I found was by phoning in and give my phone number and that was then turned into an address... On a usability note:

Some weeks ago I tried to order a catalogue from ving.se, so that I could browse for travels without using the computer, and I could not find a way to do it via the homepage. The only way I found was by phoning in and give my phone number and that was then turned into an address…

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-157069 Robert Nyman Thu, 06 Dec 2007 19:26:33 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-157069 Johan, Always! :-) Andreas, Arla.se seems better at a first glance at least, but they have some work to do too. Johan,

Always! :-)

Andreas,

Arla.se seems better at a first glance at least, but they have some work to do too.

]]> By: Andreas http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156944 Andreas Thu, 06 Dec 2007 15:30:04 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156944 I saw this on idg.se the other day. Went over to ving.se and had a quick look under the hood. My eyes turned red and I got a dodgy feeling in my stomach so I quickly closed that tab. I think it's absolutely ridiculous that internetworld's jury actually is that incompetent. Arla.se isn't perfik, but far better imo. Not that I ever really use it, but code-wise at least. I saw this on idg.se the other day. Went over to ving.se and had a quick look under the hood. My eyes turned red and I got a dodgy feeling in my stomach so I quickly closed that tab.

I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that internetworld’s jury actually is that incompetent.

Arla.se isn’t perfik, but far better imo. Not that I ever really use it, but code-wise at least.

]]> By: Johan L http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156761 Johan L Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:53:58 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156761 Hello Robert, Nice reading, great to hear family life hasn't torn you apart totally. You still seem alert and on your guard :) /Johan Hello Robert,

Nice reading, great to hear family life hasn’t torn you apart totally. You still seem alert and on your guard :)

/Johan

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156737 Robert Nyman Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:46:24 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156737 Thanks for your comments. The thing is, I don't have a real problem with bad sites, but what I strongly dislike is when so-called professionals deliver such a web site as this, and media then hypes it up. Steven, That's just awful. Sam, I'm glad you asked! First, let me point out that this is about a lot more than standards, for the record. Then, to answer your question: It's about PR, and about letting the world to know, not just them. If you search on Google now for <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=ving.se" rel="nofollow">Ving.se</a> this post is number 4. That means that people looking for Ving will get to know that it's not all it's cracked up to be. Also, since a computer magazine states that it is the best web site, I think it's important to counter that with facts why it's not, and then inform web developers about this. Thanks for your comments. The thing is, I don’t have a real problem with bad sites, but what I strongly dislike is when so-called professionals deliver such a web site as this, and media then hypes it up.

Steven,

That’s just awful.

Sam,

I’m glad you asked! First, let me point out that this is about a lot more than standards, for the record. Then, to answer your question:

It’s about PR, and about letting the world to know, not just them. If you search on Google now for Ving.se this post is number 4. That means that people looking for Ving will get to know that it’s not all it’s cracked up to be.

Also, since a computer magazine states that it is the best web site, I think it’s important to counter that with facts why it’s not, and then inform web developers about this.

]]> By: Sam Hill http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156494 Sam Hill Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:33:47 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156494 Oh gosh if you want them to consider standards why don't you email them about it. Oh gosh if you want them to consider standards why don’t you email them about it.

]]> By: Steven Clark http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156392 Steven Clark Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:54:48 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156392 Don't emigrate here though... a couple of years ago a real estate site won best website in Tasmania and I made a lot of local feathers twitchy because I pulled it apart. I really liked how it required javascript for the main menu and I couldn't get inside to most pages any other way... great high bar set. So I feel your pain :) Recently, and I can't name the site cos I'm trying to be good about these things now, a local government department decided Flash was their new tool of choice. So Flash it is (just launched) and all they have done is tiny text in the bottom left below the fold that says "print only version"... which is in fact the standard government "print version"... So that naturally also posesses all the same rubbish issues that the original site posessed before the redesign... of course its pretty (unusable) so they will throw accolades at it and more departments will want to go that way. sometimes when people have these mental spasms and hand out awards I have to run to the bathroom and gag - or drink whiskey to forget. I suggest the whiskey :) but that's a personal choice Robert. I totally agree with this article BTW. Don’t emigrate here though… a couple of years ago a real estate site won best website in Tasmania and I made a lot of local feathers twitchy because I pulled it apart. I really liked how it required javascript for the main menu and I couldn’t get inside to most pages any other way… great high bar set. So I feel your pain :)

Recently, and I can’t name the site cos I’m trying to be good about these things now, a local government department decided Flash was their new tool of choice. So Flash it is (just launched) and all they have done is tiny text in the bottom left below the fold that says “print only version”… which is in fact the standard government “print version”… So that naturally also posesses all the same rubbish issues that the original site posessed before the redesign… of course its pretty (unusable) so they will throw accolades at it and more departments will want to go that way.

sometimes when people have these mental spasms and hand out awards I have to run to the bathroom and gag - or drink whiskey to forget.

I suggest the whiskey :) but that’s a personal choice Robert. I totally agree with this article BTW.

]]> By: Mega69 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156344 Mega69 Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:21:59 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156344 What a bad site... What a bad site…

]]> By: Fredrik Frodlund http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156293 Fredrik Frodlund Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:32:27 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156293 Great slam in the face on both Internetworld and Ving, Robert! I needed a good laugh. Like Roger says, the award is a pathetic joke, to say the least. Great slam in the face on both Internetworld and Ving, Robert! I needed a good laugh. Like Roger says, the award is a pathetic joke, to say the least.

]]> By: Roger Johansson http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156216 Roger Johansson Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:34:53 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/12/05/vingse-being-swedens-best-web-site-i-think-not/#comment-156216 The Internetworld award is nothing but a pathetic joke. The Internetworld award is nothing but a pathetic joke.

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