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	<title>Comments on: Opinions seem to change once you&#8217;re hired by a large company</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/09/28/opinions-seem-to-change-once-youre-hired-by-a-large-company/#comment-115640</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

If that's the case, that's just great! The people I talk about here, though, have changed their own ideals instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case, that&#8217;s just great! The people I talk about here, though, have changed their own ideals instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do people start working for a company with different ideals?

Well, why would a web developer start working for an org. with a poor website?  To improve it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people start working for a company with different ideals?</p>
<p>Well, why would a web developer start working for an org. with a poor website?  To improve it!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/09/28/opinions-seem-to-change-once-youre-hired-by-a-large-company/#comment-113925</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jermayn,

Absolutely, it's hard to come into such an organization, many of us have faced it. In my examples, though, I'm thinking of people in other situations than that, where it's not as understandable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jermayn,</p>
<p>Absolutely, it&#8217;s hard to come into such an organization, many of us have faced it. In my examples, though, I&#8217;m thinking of people in other situations than that, where it&#8217;s not as understandable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jermayn Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jermayn Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I do not see it as a change of mind but rather their personal beliefs being driven out of them.

It is very hard (from experience) to go into an organisation were they do NOT follow standards/ css style layouts etc and change it all at once. The people who are generally the worse are your bosses and it takes A LOT to change their mind, even with all the stats/ research etc.

In my example it has taken one year of hard work and while the organisation has vastly improved, it still has a long way and I have had to weaken my stances in some situations to keep the peace.

Also time is a factor as some people just want it out there and not the extra hour or so spent to clean up the code and get it working on FF2, IE6 etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I do not see it as a change of mind but rather their personal beliefs being driven out of them.</p>
<p>It is very hard (from experience) to go into an organisation were they do NOT follow standards/ <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> style layouts etc and change it all at once. The people who are generally the worse are your bosses and it takes A LOT to change their mind, even with all the stats/ research etc.</p>
<p>In my example it has taken one year of hard work and while the organisation has vastly improved, it still has a long way and I have had to weaken my stances in some situations to keep the peace.</p>
<p>Also time is a factor as some people just want it out there and not the extra hour or so spent to clean up the code and get it working on FF2, IE6 etc</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guilherme,

&lt;blockquote cite="http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/09/28/opinions-seem-to-change-once-youre-hired-by-a-large-company/#comment-113504"&gt;
Some others don’t bother to analize and just accept a whole doctrine that in the average is closer to them.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Without a doubt, this is very true sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guilherme,</p>
<blockquote cite="http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/09/28/opinions-seem-to-change-once-youre-hired-by-a-large-company/#comment-113504"><p>
Some others don’t bother to analize and just accept a whole doctrine that in the average is closer to them.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Without a doubt, this is very true sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Guilherme Zuhlke O'Connor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guilherme Zuhlke O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess that some people that act like this had a very one-sided opinion on the first place.

It is very easy to do it so, when you are not part of the process and then discover how wrong you were, up to a point when you don't see any reason in your previous thoughts.

I think that after all, it is the natural way of leaning, you see one point, then you fall in love for a completely different one. Smart people learn to preserve parts of all of them and build a more solid and multi-sided opinion as they grow. Some others don't bother to analize and just accept a whole doctrine that in the average is closer to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess that some people that act like this had a very one-sided opinion on the first place.</p>
<p>It is very easy to do it so, when you are not part of the process and then discover how wrong you were, up to a point when you don&#8217;t see any reason in your previous thoughts.</p>
<p>I think that after all, it is the natural way of leaning, you see one point, then you fall in love for a completely different one. Smart people learn to preserve parts of all of them and build a more solid and multi-sided opinion as they grow. Some others don&#8217;t bother to analize and just accept a whole doctrine that in the average is closer to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Wellock,

In some cases, yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Wellock,</p>
<p>In some cases, yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Wellock</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/09/28/opinions-seem-to-change-once-youre-hired-by-a-large-company/#comment-113279</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Wellock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you reckon "thirty pieces of silver" is the going rate to change certain people's directions. Well, as long as they can live with themselves that is fine by me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you reckon &#8220;thirty pieces of silver&#8221; is the going rate to change certain people&#8217;s directions. Well, as long as they can live with themselves that is fine by me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/09/28/opinions-seem-to-change-once-youre-hired-by-a-large-company/#comment-113150</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tommy,

Oh, absolutely, people do evolve. But if/when that happens, I wish they were more humble and honest about their past self and opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tommy,</p>
<p>Oh, absolutely, people do evolve. But if/when that happens, I wish they were more humble and honest about their past self and opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Olsson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy Olsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose it could be the case that they &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; see the other person's side when they become employees. They may have believe one thing before, and then, being exposed to the practicalities of actually implementing that, they might see it differently.

Most likely, though, they simply sold out. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose it could be the case that they <em>do</em> see the other person&#8217;s side when they become employees. They may have believe one thing before, and then, being exposed to the practicalities of actually implementing that, they might see it differently.</p>
<p>Most likely, though, they simply sold out. <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joachim,

It's hard to say, really. In some cases, maybe it's money. In other cases, maybe they weren't fully aware of the company's stance and gradually feel compelled to completely adopt it.

Morgan,

Actually, there's more than one person that I have in mind, but I didn't want to turn this into name-calling or an attack on some people, and I appreciate you not doing the same.

Jrf,

Absolutely right, thanks. I was a bit tired when I wrote it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joachim,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to say, really. In some cases, maybe it&#8217;s money. In other cases, maybe they weren&#8217;t fully aware of the company&#8217;s stance and gradually feel compelled to completely adopt it.</p>
<p>Morgan,</p>
<p>Actually, there&#8217;s more than one person that I have in mind, but I didn&#8217;t want to turn this into name-calling or an attack on some people, and I appreciate you not doing the same.</p>
<p>Jrf,</p>
<p>Absolutely right, thanks. I was a bit tired when I wrote it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jrf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jrf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahum... just nitpicking: I presume you mean 'entitled' where you wrote 'in title' ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahum&#8230; just nitpicking: I presume you mean &#8216;entitled&#8217; where you wrote &#8216;in title&#8217; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Roderick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan Roderick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, it sounds very much like you have one specific person in mind ;)

I could offer a few suggestions, but I'd rather not, since I might be right, and in any case it'd make me look like a twat.

I do, however, agree that it's most peculiar that some people just abandon all their opinions and readily adopt the corporate opinions.

I could never do that, I guess I am just too opinionated to begin with ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, it sounds very much like you have one specific person in mind <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I could offer a few suggestions, but I&#8217;d rather not, since I might be right, and in any case it&#8217;d make me look like a twat.</p>
<p>I do, however, agree that it&#8217;s most peculiar that some people just abandon all their opinions and readily adopt the corporate opinions.</p>
<p>I could never do that, I guess I am just too opinionated to begin with <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Joachim Dagerot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joachim Dagerot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The interesting part is why they took the position in a company that violates their own ideal. Is it just money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The interesting part is why they took the position in a company that violates their own ideal. Is it just money?</p>
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