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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/06/10/whats-our-legacy/#comment-155821</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 18:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R K Sabharwal,

I agree that we should try and make good things. On my behalf, all the ad incomes from this web site is given to charity, and at least that's something to start with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R K Sabharwal,</p>
<p>I agree that we should try and make good things. On my behalf, all the ad incomes from this web site is given to charity, and at least that&#8217;s something to start with.</p>
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		<title>By: R K Sabharwal</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/06/10/whats-our-legacy/#comment-155745</link>
		<dc:creator>R K Sabharwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Guys!
  You are young and have the world at your feet. You have work to do; responsibilities to yourself and those who love you and need you. You can do a lot of good in this world utilizing your talent and helping the " have nots".  You can help all by doing a good deed every day and trying to make the world a better place to stay. Stop being negative. Be happy and make others happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Guys!<br />
  You are young and have the world at your feet. You have work to do; responsibilities to yourself and those who love you and need you. You can do a lot of good in this world utilizing your talent and helping the &#8221; have nots&#8221;.  You can help all by doing a good deed every day and trying to make the world a better place to stay. Stop being negative. Be happy and make others happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/06/10/whats-our-legacy/#comment-77944</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mukul,

Thanks for your comment! I'm just glad if this in any way did make you think; I think it's important to delve deeper and to get a perspective to things. It's way too easy to just get blinded by everyday things and miss the big scheme of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mukul,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment! I&#8217;m just glad if this in any way did make you think; I think it&#8217;s important to delve deeper and to get a perspective to things. It&#8217;s way too easy to just get blinded by everyday things and miss the big scheme of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Mukul Sabharwal</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/06/10/whats-our-legacy/#comment-77759</link>
		<dc:creator>Mukul Sabharwal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 06:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In search for color schemes yields a great blog entry :-)

I concur with what you've written, enough so that I'm seriously considering changing my profession! I've been having these not-so-good thoughts about death, etc. and inevitably I ask the question, what is life all about?

Constructing bridges, core 2 processors, monumental buildings, even writing ... for what? God? Afterlife?

Everybody goes out works, for money, fame etc. But it will eventually disappear all one day. And I'm not saying that one person's death takes it all away, but from what I know the Earth is not a forever thing, it has a lifetime. What after that?

This thought rattles my brain, this may be a tangent to what you really said in your post, but just thought I'd share my feelings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In search for color schemes yields a great blog entry <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I concur with what you&#8217;ve written, enough so that I&#8217;m seriously considering changing my profession! I&#8217;ve been having these not-so-good thoughts about death, etc. and inevitably I ask the question, what is life all about?</p>
<p>Constructing bridges, core 2 processors, monumental buildings, even writing &#8230; for what? God? Afterlife?</p>
<p>Everybody goes out works, for money, fame etc. But it will eventually disappear all one day. And I&#8217;m not saying that one person&#8217;s death takes it all away, but from what I know the Earth is not a forever thing, it has a lifetime. What after that?</p>
<p>This thought rattles my brain, this may be a tangent to what you really said in your post, but just thought I&#8217;d share my feelings!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/06/10/whats-our-legacy/#comment-69786</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Travis,

Most definitely. Your work gives you money which in turn helps you to make the best for your children, i.e. your legacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Travis,</p>
<p>Most definitely. Your work gives you money which in turn helps you to make the best for your children, i.e. your legacy.</p>
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		<title>By: FÃ¡bio Pedrosa &#187; links for 2007-06-15</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/06/10/whats-our-legacy/#comment-69569</link>
		<dc:creator>FÃ¡bio Pedrosa &#187; links for 2007-06-15</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What&#8217;s our legacy? You put in, on average, somewhere between 40 and 50 years working. Long hours, endless meetings, changes, deadlines and requirements. And at the end of it all, whatâ€™s left? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What&#8217;s our legacy? You put in, on average, somewhere between 40 and 50 years working. Long hours, endless meetings, changes, deadlines and requirements. And at the end of it all, whatâ€™s left? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Travis Laborde</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/06/10/whats-our-legacy/#comment-69392</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis Laborde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree totally.  But, I've got a 6yr old son and a 2yr old son, and as far as I'm concerned they are all the legacy I need.

My work as a .NET developer is wonderful in that it's fun, challenging, creative, and generally right up my alley.  I simply love it.  But I know it's not going to be remembered years down the road.  It just won't matter.  But it does one final thing:  It pays for me to raise those kids in a great environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally.  But, I&#8217;ve got a 6yr old son and a 2yr old son, and as far as I&#8217;m concerned they are all the legacy I need.</p>
<p>My work as a .NET developer is wonderful in that it&#8217;s fun, challenging, creative, and generally right up my alley.  I simply love it.  But I know it&#8217;s not going to be remembered years down the road.  It just won&#8217;t matter.  But it does one final thing:  It pays for me to raise those kids in a great environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/06/10/whats-our-legacy/#comment-69168</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 18:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shadowfiend,

Thank you! I think you make an excellent point. We won't necessarily be remembered for our work itself, but our ways of thinking, handling situation and how we affect and support other people.

And I agree; what better legacy to leave? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shadowfiend,</p>
<p>Thank you! I think you make an excellent point. We won&#8217;t necessarily be remembered for our work itself, but our ways of thinking, handling situation and how we affect and support other people.</p>
<p>And I agree; what better legacy to leave? <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Shadowfiend</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/06/10/whats-our-legacy/#comment-68994</link>
		<dc:creator>Shadowfiend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting post indeed. Children are one thing that is very important, but I think another is simply others who have been affected by us. When working in the web development world, we may not leave a direct legacy -- the application we wrote, for example, may not last for another fifty years -- but we may leave an indirect one, as the design principles and ideas that we instill in programmers of the younger generation are followed through. It is, perhaps, enough  to be remembered simply in tales, as in those that some more experienced programmers tell today of their colleagues of old who did this or that and taught them something completely new. Few, in short, are those who will be remembered as Alexander the Great is today; not so few, hopefully, are those who will be remembered by colleagues, friends, and children who will pass that coveted memory on to their own colleagues, friends, and children. That, I think, is something to truly strive for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting post indeed. Children are one thing that is very important, but I think another is simply others who have been affected by us. When working in the web development world, we may not leave a direct legacy &#8212; the application we wrote, for example, may not last for another fifty years &#8212; but we may leave an indirect one, as the design principles and ideas that we instill in programmers of the younger generation are followed through. It is, perhaps, enough  to be remembered simply in tales, as in those that some more experienced programmers tell today of their colleagues of old who did this or that and taught them something completely new. Few, in short, are those who will be remembered as Alexander the Great is today; not so few, hopefully, are those who will be remembered by colleagues, friends, and children who will pass that coveted memory on to their own colleagues, friends, and children. That, I think, is something to truly strive for.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/06/10/whats-our-legacy/#comment-68599</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you very much for your thorough comments! I sincerely appreciate it, and am glad to see that others share my thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for your thorough comments! I sincerely appreciate it, and am glad to see that others share my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Robert.. sometimes when I read your entries one thought comes to my mind as soon as the first paragraph is read.. and for this post my one thought was; "Your Kids.. come on!"... then of course at the end of your post.. there it was.. the conclusion I was hoping you would come to :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Robert.. sometimes when I read your entries one thought comes to my mind as soon as the first paragraph is read.. and for this post my one thought was; &#8220;Your Kids.. come on!&#8221;&#8230; then of course at the end of your post.. there it was.. the conclusion I was hoping you would come to <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Guilherme Zuhlke O'Connor</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/06/10/whats-our-legacy/#comment-68418</link>
		<dc:creator>Guilherme Zuhlke O'Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree that if I were thinking about what to put on my tombstone, I wouldn't be thinking in a professional title.

Something to be remembered for is a great concern for a lot of people, now, there seems to be little agreement in what is the best. Some want social recognition and then want to be remembered by the greatest achievements that are objective and socially recognizable, like work titles. TakeGauss , for instance, who did so many things for science, required that his tombstone had engraved the solution for the &lt;a&gt;"&#62;heptadecagon problem&lt;/a&gt;.

I don't think the Web Developer case is so unique. It is similar to some other professions.

A cuisine chef, for instance, what legacy will he leave? Either (s)he creates an incredible recipe, a new cooking philosofy or their work will vanish as quick as lunchtime.

Some other professions produce durable things, but I don't think durable means valuable. I guess in all professions a stand like yours is better.

Leaving a legacy two or three kids at a time is, not only more valuable, but also is a good way to invest in diversity of thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree that if I were thinking about what to put on my tombstone, I wouldn&#8217;t be thinking in a professional title.</p>
<p>Something to be remembered for is a great concern for a lot of people, now, there seems to be little agreement in what is the best. Some want social recognition and then want to be remembered by the greatest achievements that are objective and socially recognizable, like work titles. TakeGauss , for instance, who did so many things for science, required that his tombstone had engraved the solution for the <a>&#8220;&gt;heptadecagon problem</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the Web Developer case is so unique. It is similar to some other professions.</p>
<p>A cuisine chef, for instance, what legacy will he leave? Either (s)he creates an incredible recipe, a new cooking philosofy or their work will vanish as quick as lunchtime.</p>
<p>Some other professions produce durable things, but I don&#8217;t think durable means valuable. I guess in all professions a stand like yours is better.</p>
<p>Leaving a legacy two or three kids at a time is, not only more valuable, but also is a good way to invest in diversity of thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Kirton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Kirton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert:  A very thoughtful and thought provoking post. I have two daughters and two sons myself; and a short while ago came to similar conclusions to yourself.

I can only hope that the values instilled in my children live on.  As a bonus, after my death, maybe something will grow in the soil that my body composts :0)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert:  A very thoughtful and thought provoking post. I have two daughters and two sons myself; and a short while ago came to similar conclusions to yourself.</p>
<p>I can only hope that the values instilled in my children live on.  As a bonus, after my death, maybe something will grow in the soil that my body composts :0)</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert: Well spoken, my friend. I appreciate the humility with which you approach life. That's something I could stand to have more of, myself. As far as legacy, I see things like this (for me personally, not trying to bash anyone else over the head with my beliefs)...

1. God is timeless.
2. Design principles endure, but change gradually.
3. Code is constantly changing and being refined (ex: current popularity of Ruby).

What drives the vision of Godbit.com, for me, is that we're using a medium that (at the moment) is the best way to facilitate and get the word out about the (in my opinion) timeless message. To me, that's legacy. Whether or not someone remembers my name, or what I did, is ultimately irrelevant and doesn't matter to me. All I want to do is faithfully keep the torch kindled until it's time to pass it on.

When I eventually have kids, I imagine that my sentiments will be similar to yours. In that aspect, we are alike. We want to instill and inspire something in future generations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert: Well spoken, my friend. I appreciate the humility with which you approach life. That&#8217;s something I could stand to have more of, myself. As far as legacy, I see things like this (for me personally, not trying to bash anyone else over the head with my beliefs)&#8230;</p>
<p>1. God is timeless.<br />
2. Design principles endure, but change gradually.<br />
3. Code is constantly changing and being refined (ex: current popularity of Ruby).</p>
<p>What drives the vision of Godbit.com, for me, is that we&#8217;re using a medium that (at the moment) is the best way to facilitate and get the word out about the (in my opinion) timeless message. To me, that&#8217;s legacy. Whether or not someone remembers my name, or what I did, is ultimately irrelevant and doesn&#8217;t matter to me. All I want to do is faithfully keep the torch kindled until it&#8217;s time to pass it on.</p>
<p>When I eventually have kids, I imagine that my sentiments will be similar to yours. In that aspect, we are alike. We want to instill and inspire something in future generations.</p>
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