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	<title>Comments on: Testing Joost, the Internet TV service</title>
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		<title>By: Get a Joost invite - Robert&#8217;s talk</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-66975</link>
		<dc:creator>Get a Joost invite - Robert&#8217;s talk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Testing Joost, the Internet TV service   Posted in Technology &#124; 94 comments [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-54847</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 07:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dimiter,

Cool, thanks for the tip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dimiter,</p>
<p>Cool, thanks for the tip!</p>
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		<title>By: Dimiter</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-54297</link>
		<dc:creator>Dimiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 14:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've just discovered another TV service, &lt;a href="http://zattoo.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Zattoo&lt;/a&gt;, which is really nice and free. As far as I can tell, you can currently watch only European channels (there are about 30 of them at the time of writing). The interface is pretty straightforward: choose a channel, wait for a couple of seconds (buffering + advertising) and watch TV on yout computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just discovered another TV service, <a href="http://zattoo.com/" rel="nofollow">Zattoo</a>, which is really nice and free. As far as I can tell, you can currently watch only European channels (there are about 30 of them at the time of writing). The interface is pretty straightforward: choose a channel, wait for a couple of seconds (buffering + advertising) and watch TV on yout computer.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-52490</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eric,

Thanks for sharing, interesting to hear about your experience with it. I agree that at this time, the quality isn't really ready for prime time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eric,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing, interesting to hear about your experience with it. I agree that at this time, the quality isn&#8217;t really ready for prime time.</p>
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		<title>By: eric werkhoven</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-52382</link>
		<dc:creator>eric werkhoven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 20:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i've been using joost for about a week now, from mexico city, and i haven't been ale to see a complete clip yet ('this program is unavailable right now'). I can at least start watching anything i click on, but the quality isn't too great and and it stutters a lot, and i never get to the end of any program before the 'unavailable' message shows up. So far it isn't really compelling hence, i am also curious about the bandwidth and storage it consumes, i'll do some measurements on that and post it. I hope the content limitations and streaming hiccups will be ironed out before a release, because in the current form it just doesn't cut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve been using joost for about a week now, from mexico city, and i haven&#8217;t been ale to see a complete clip yet (&#8217;this program is unavailable right now&#8217;). I can at least start watching anything i click on, but the quality isn&#8217;t too great and and it stutters a lot, and i never get to the end of any program before the &#8216;unavailable&#8217; message shows up. So far it isn&#8217;t really compelling hence, i am also curious about the bandwidth and storage it consumes, i&#8217;ll do some measurements on that and post it. I hope the content limitations and streaming hiccups will be ironed out before a release, because in the current form it just doesn&#8217;t cut it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-51749</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

Ah, good. :-)

Patrik,

Sure, one invitation left, Please just donate to one of the charities linked from this web page, and I'll send it to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Ah, good. <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Patrik,</p>
<p>Sure, one invitation left, Please just donate to one of the charities linked from this web page, and I&#8217;ll send it to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrik Wilhelmsson</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-51739</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrik Wilhelmsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So can somone please get me an invitation ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So can somone please get me an invitation ?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-51713</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I've not been commenting much anywhere, been reading tho :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I&#8217;ve not been commenting much anywhere, been reading tho <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 07:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

Good to see that someone share my opinion.

Lei,

I definitely understand your problems, and it is very good to get input from somewhere where I don't know how it works.

Andy,

Yes, at the time it is fairly limited.

Steve,

Absolutely, regional alienation is the path to failure. Good to see you, btw; it's been some time since you last commented! :-)

Deborah,

Thanks for the donation, it was very appreciated! I sent an invite to you.

David,

Well, it just feels a bit weird, to be honest. And "El Shamar" is just hilarious! :-D

Kenneth,

Wow, that's a lot of questions!
The quality is so-so, to be honest. I hope it will get better.

It is streaming only.

Since it's streaming it automatically downloads the latest episodes.

The ads are placed within the videos, or rather from, what I've seen, at the beggining (just as a regular TV commercial).

ANd yes, we love semantics! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>Good to see that someone share my opinion.</p>
<p>Lei,</p>
<p>I definitely understand your problems, and it is very good to get input from somewhere where I don&#8217;t know how it works.</p>
<p>Andy,</p>
<p>Yes, at the time it is fairly limited.</p>
<p>Steve,</p>
<p>Absolutely, regional alienation is the path to failure. Good to see you, <acronym title="By The Way">BTW</acronym>; it&#8217;s been some time since you last commented! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Deborah,</p>
<p>Thanks for the donation, it was very appreciated! I sent an invite to you.</p>
<p>David,</p>
<p>Well, it just feels a bit weird, to be honest. And &#8220;El Shamar&#8221; is just hilarious! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Kenneth,</p>
<p>Wow, that&#8217;s a lot of questions!<br />
The quality is so-so, to be honest. I hope it will get better.</p>
<p>It is streaming only.</p>
<p>Since it&#8217;s streaming it automatically downloads the latest episodes.</p>
<p>The ads are placed within the videos, or rather from, what I&#8217;ve seen, at the beggining (just as a regular TV commercial).</p>
<p>ANd yes, we love semantics! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Sundqvist</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-51325</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth Sundqvist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the quality like? Does it even come close to HRHD or 720p? I can't even find a sample video for people who are not members (ffs.)

Is it streaming only? That would be a big no for me. And there isn't some stream manager, is there? You would have to have a browser window/tab open to load each video? Annoying.

I would have to be able to download and store the video on my hard drive, so that I can easily move it to an other computer -- possibly one that isn't connected to the internet.

Is there a show subscription function that downloads new episodes for you right away when they are available?

Where are these ads placed? Before/after or are there breaks for them? I will never ever watch anything that breaks if I can get the same without too much trouble without breaks.

At the moment tvrss.net and ÂµTorrent works magic. New episodes downloaded and ready for viewing in nice quality before I wake up -- or go to sleep in the morning.

I don't expect anyone to come close with a legal option any time soon. Too many control freaks in control!
I think there would have to be a show that reaches the magnitude of Heroes, 24, Lost or such by the means of global distribution through a bittorrent like technique before anyone can get out of the grip of the USA like distributors.

And -- hehe -- "All the content is â€œfreeâ€, so to speak, in the sense that it is only ad-sponsored."
Free as in free of charge is called &lt;i&gt;gratis&lt;/i&gt; in english too -- &lt;a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gratis" title="The word Gratis at Wiktionary" rel="nofollow"&gt;in quite a few languages&lt;/a&gt;, actually.
It's all semantics.. But we like semantics, don't we? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the quality like? Does it even come close to HRHD or 720p? I can&#8217;t even find a sample video for people who are not members (ffs.)</p>
<p>Is it streaming only? That would be a big no for me. And there isn&#8217;t some stream manager, is there? You would have to have a browser window/tab open to load each video? Annoying.</p>
<p>I would have to be able to download and store the video on my hard drive, so that I can easily move it to an other computer &#8212; possibly one that isn&#8217;t connected to the internet.</p>
<p>Is there a show subscription function that downloads new episodes for you right away when they are available?</p>
<p>Where are these ads placed? Before/after or are there breaks for them? I will never ever watch anything that breaks if I can get the same without too much trouble without breaks.</p>
<p>At the moment tvrss.net and ÂµTorrent works magic. New episodes downloaded and ready for viewing in nice quality before I wake up &#8212; or go to sleep in the morning.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect anyone to come close with a legal option any time soon. Too many control freaks in control!<br />
I think there would have to be a show that reaches the magnitude of Heroes, 24, Lost or such by the means of global distribution through a bittorrent like technique before anyone can get out of the grip of the USA like distributors.</p>
<p>And &#8212; hehe &#8212; &#8220;All the content is â€œfreeâ€, so to speak, in the sense that it is only ad-sponsored.&#8221;<br />
Free as in free of charge is called <i>gratis</i> in english too &#8212; <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/gratis" title="The word Gratis at Wiktionary" rel="nofollow">in quite a few languages</a>, actually.<br />
It&#8217;s all semantics.. But we like semantics, don&#8217;t we? <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: David Rodger</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-51314</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;Joost, which is supposed to be pronounced â€œjuicedâ€

Does that make you and your European readers wince? Certainly seems made for all us cloth-eared Australians. (You wouldn't believe the mangling of foreign names by a Channel 9 commentator on the TV broadcast of the recent Swimming World Championships. For example, Alshammar became "El Shamar". I was most surprised to see that the swimmer was from Sweden, not a Middle Eastern country!)

I heard a report about this on the radio this morning and thought Joost must be spelled that way. I was going to type that into my browser when I read your post. I wouldn't have got very far!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Joost, which is supposed to be pronounced â€œjuicedâ€</p>
<p>Does that make you and your European readers wince? Certainly seems made for all us cloth-eared Australians. (You wouldn&#8217;t believe the mangling of foreign names by a Channel 9 commentator on the TV broadcast of the recent Swimming World Championships. For example, Alshammar became &#8220;El Shamar&#8221;. I was most surprised to see that the swimmer was from Sweden, not a Middle Eastern country!)</p>
<p>I heard a report about this on the radio this morning and thought Joost must be spelled that way. I was going to type that into my browser when I read your post. I wouldn&#8217;t have got very far!</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-51169</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's really sad that there are restrictions on what different regions can watch; most disappointing. 

Joost looks interesting, and I might take you up on the beta, except next week is "Turn off TV" week. Our household is already planning activities sans TV. Not sure how I would fit it in this week.

P.S. I donated yesterday to WWF. Hope others decide to join in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really sad that there are restrictions on what different regions can watch; most disappointing. </p>
<p>Joost looks interesting, and I might take you up on the beta, except next week is &#8220;Turn off TV&#8221; week. Our household is already planning activities sans TV. Not sure how I would fit it in this week.</p>
<p>P.S. I donated yesterday to WWF. Hope others decide to join in!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-51167</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The iTunes store is a perfect example of regional offerings that alienate customers. It really annoys me that the UK store does not offer the same content and pricing as the US store, especially for TV shows. It's not like they are giving them away free, so why the Hell not sell them globally?!!

I mean, if someone really wants to see the latest episodes of any popular TV show, they've only got to look to p2p or torrent and then the companies get nothing lol?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iTunes store is a perfect example of regional offerings that alienate customers. It really annoys me that the UK store does not offer the same content and pricing as the US store, especially for TV shows. It&#8217;s not like they are giving them away free, so why the Hell not sell them globally?!!</p>
<p>I mean, if someone really wants to see the latest episodes of any popular TV show, they&#8217;ve only got to look to <acronym title="Peer To Peer">P2P</acronym> or torrent and then the companies get nothing lol?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-51156</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 11:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even though, being a Joost beta tester already, I find the range of channels to be pretty limited. I mean, heck, I can even get better channels through WMP (MTV, CNN, Cartoon Network, ZTV and so forth).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even though, being a Joost beta tester already, I find the range of channels to be pretty limited. I mean, heck, I can even get better channels through WMP (MTV, CNN, Cartoon Network, ZTV and so forth).</p>
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		<title>By: Lei</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2007/04/18/testing-joost-the-internet-tv-service/#comment-51146</link>
		<dc:creator>Lei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm from China and feels Joost will not make an impact to my life.  The most important reason is that the TVs on Joost are almost for Western audiences. Although I watch American TVs every week(Lost, Heroes),  I get them from P2P software like emule. 

Besides, poor internet connection and geographical position are two other limitations. I've tried Joost, it has a better UI than the other P2P TV services I've used before. However, I find there are few channels I can watch and the lag makes a comfortable watching into a terrible experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from China and feels Joost will not make an impact to my life.  The most important reason is that the TVs on Joost are almost for Western audiences. Although I watch American TVs every week(Lost, Heroes),  I get them from <acronym title="Peer To Peer">P2P</acronym> software like emule. </p>
<p>Besides, poor internet connection and geographical position are two other limitations. I&#8217;ve tried Joost, it has a better UI than the other <acronym title="Peer To Peer">P2P</acronym> TV services I&#8217;ve used before. However, I find there are few channels I can watch and the lag makes a comfortable watching into a terrible experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn't agree more.
It's time that they get the big shows on there, worldwide. Otherwise people will lose interest and go back to their usual downloading routines.
I'm also in Sweden and I'm frustrated with the fact that the quality channels seem to be restricted to a north american audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more.<br />
It&#8217;s time that they get the big shows on there, worldwide. Otherwise people will lose interest and go back to their usual downloading routines.<br />
I&#8217;m also in Sweden and I&#8217;m frustrated with the fact that the quality channels seem to be restricted to a north american audience.</p>
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