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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18956</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, to me writing a company name the way they want it spelled is about showing them respect for their product/business. No more, no less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, to me writing a company name the way they want it spelled is about showing them respect for their product/business. No more, no less.</p>
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		<title>By: Hakan Bilgin</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18926</link>
		<dc:creator>Hakan Bilgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 04:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
Alvin prooves my point.

It should not be hard to understand why it is hard to reason with fundamentalistic muslims. I mean, they are also convinced by their beliefs...

In my opinion, the parallell holds...but I know that this is an inflamable topic. Therefore, let's drop it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,<br />
Alvin prooves my point.</p>
<p>It should not be hard to understand why it is hard to reason with fundamentalistic muslims. I mean, they are also convinced by their beliefs&#8230;</p>
<p>In my opinion, the parallell holds&#8230;but I know that this is an inflamable topic. Therefore, let&#8217;s drop it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alvin</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18835</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 10:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite="18392"&gt;
Google forbids any other use of its name other than the â€œright wayâ€ and everybody should follow strict guidelines.

This pattern can be observed in a real religion. Islam; Allah or the prophet can not be depicted and there are strict guidelines in how to live.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry, Hakan Bilgin, but "Google" is an asset that happens to be a name.  There IS a right way to use it.  For example, it's SkyTel, not skytell, or Skytel, or sky tell, or any variation you can think of IF by SkyTel you mean the paging company.  Heck, it's George W. Bush, not George Bush, if you want it clear you're speaking of the president that was elected to office in 2004, not the one that was elected to office in 1988. 

In English capitalization is an important characteristic. The poems of E. E. Cummings illustrate as much.  It's bad form to write comments or send e-mails in all capital letters.  And one can even argue that nowadays the word google, without the capital G, is a verb meaning, "to use a search engine to find something on the Internet."  And although it implies that one would be using the Google search engine, no one, except maybe Microsoft, would be upset if it was found out that one used Internet Explorer to google the item in question.</description>
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Google forbids any other use of its name other than the â€œright wayâ€ and everybody should follow strict guidelines.</p>
<p>This pattern can be observed in a real religion. Islam; Allah or the prophet can not be depicted and there are strict guidelines in how to live.
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<p>Sorry, Hakan Bilgin, but &#8220;Google&#8221; is an asset that happens to be a name.  There IS a right way to use it.  For example, it&#8217;s SkyTel, not skytell, or Skytel, or sky tell, or any variation you can think of IF by SkyTel you mean the paging company.  Heck, it&#8217;s George W. Bush, not George Bush, if you want it clear you&#8217;re speaking of the president that was elected to office in 2004, not the one that was elected to office in 1988. </p>
<p>In English capitalization is an important characteristic. The poems of E. E. Cummings illustrate as much.  It&#8217;s bad form to write comments or send e-mails in all capital letters.  And one can even argue that nowadays the word google, without the capital G, is a verb meaning, &#8220;to use a search engine to find something on the Internet.&#8221;  And although it implies that one would be using the Google search engine, no one, except maybe Microsoft, would be upset if it was found out that one used Internet Explorer to google the item in question.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18511</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 19:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hakan,

Questioning is almost always good; that's how one learns stuff! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hakan,</p>
<p>Questioning is almost always good; that&#8217;s how one learns stuff! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Hakan Bilgin</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18484</link>
		<dc:creator>Hakan Bilgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 16:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,
&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess only the future can tell if it has been good or if it has hurt the world.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Today the basic idea for search engines to collect data is good cause. But tomorrow, it may easily fall into abusive hands.

I have heard rumours that Google is collaborating with CIA today...both parts do not deny this rumour. And as you know, CIA has admitted that they were involved in domestic politics in democratic nations, such as Chile in the 70's.

No one can confirm that public data isn't being abused already...

...no, I am not dark in mind or paranoid, but I can not help questioning stuff. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<blockquote><p>I guess only the future can tell if it has been good or if it has hurt the world.</p></blockquote>
<p>Today the basic idea for search engines to collect data is good cause. But tomorrow, it may easily fall into abusive hands.</p>
<p>I have heard rumours that Google is collaborating with CIA today&#8230;both parts do not deny this rumour. And as you know, CIA has admitted that they were involved in domestic politics in democratic nations, such as Chile in the 70&#8217;s.</p>
<p>No one can confirm that public data isn&#8217;t being abused already&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;no, I am not dark in mind or paranoid, but I can not help questioning stuff. <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18396</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 07:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hakan,

Valid points about all data being collected, be it Google or any other company. I guess only the future can tell if it has been good or if it has hurt the world.

&lt;blockquote&gt;
I find the religious idolization of Google a little alarming.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That is definitely not the point with this post. If anything, it's mocking standardistas, web developers etc for too much idolization and vorshipping of companies (just look at some Apple or Microsoft fanbys and what lenghts they go to to defend their favorite company). Maybe it also has a touch of making fun of some SEO optimizers...

Another point, though, is just to sell in the idea of semantic code that isn't dependent on JavaScript, for both accessibility and SEO reasons, in a fun way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hakan,</p>
<p>Valid points about all data being collected, be it Google or any other company. I guess only the future can tell if it has been good or if it has hurt the world.</p>
<blockquote><p>
I find the religious idolization of Google a little alarming.
</p></blockquote>
<p>That is definitely not the point with this post. If anything, it&#8217;s mocking standardistas, web developers etc for too much idolization and vorshipping of companies (just look at some Apple or Microsoft fanbys and what lenghts they go to to defend their favorite company). Maybe it also has a touch of making fun of some SEO optimizers&#8230;</p>
<p>Another point, though, is just to sell in the idea of semantic code that isn&#8217;t dependent on JavaScript, for both accessibility and SEO reasons, in a fun way.</p>
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		<title>By: Hakan Bilgin</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18392</link>
		<dc:creator>Hakan Bilgin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 06:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a small notice in the last page of Computer Sweden, something like;

Google doesnâ€™t like the usage of the word â€œgoogleâ€ or â€œgooglaâ€ (Swedish version) when the word is used to describe a search. It has to be written â€œGoogleâ€, with a capital letter.

Ok, I understand the fun part in your post but the message is unmistakable. I find the religious idolization of Google a little alarming. Google is yet another company driven by the same values as any other company, this is especially noticeable now.

Today Google is collecting and indexing the data and if they continue in this pace tomorrow they will be the kings of all historical data. At that stage, it doesnâ€™t take more than one profit hungry group to possess this data. The power that comes with it can easily be abused in the wrong hands. 

To sum it all...
Google forbids any other use of its name other than the â€œright wayâ€ and everybody should follow strict guidelines.

This pattern can be observed in a real religion. Islam; Allah or the prophet can not be depicted and there are strict guidelines in how to live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a small notice in the last page of Computer Sweden, something like;</p>
<p>Google doesnâ€™t like the usage of the word â€œgoogleâ€ or â€œgooglaâ€ (Swedish version) when the word is used to describe a search. It has to be written â€œGoogleâ€, with a capital letter.</p>
<p>Ok, I understand the fun part in your post but the message is unmistakable. I find the religious idolization of Google a little alarming. Google is yet another company driven by the same values as any other company, this is especially noticeable now.</p>
<p>Today Google is collecting and indexing the data and if they continue in this pace tomorrow they will be the kings of all historical data. At that stage, it doesnâ€™t take more than one profit hungry group to possess this data. The power that comes with it can easily be abused in the wrong hands. </p>
<p>To sum it all&#8230;<br />
Google forbids any other use of its name other than the â€œright wayâ€ and everybody should follow strict guidelines.</p>
<p>This pattern can be observed in a real religion. Islam; Allah or the prophet can not be depicted and there are strict guidelines in how to live.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18310</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deborah,

Sorry to hear that, but at the same time, I'm happy that you can relate. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah,</p>
<p>Sorry to hear that, but at the same time, I&#8217;m happy that you can relate. <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18266</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 16:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great fun! Having spent some time recently with code that had a severe case of divs and classes, rather than headings and paragraphs, I can relate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great fun! Having spent some time recently with code that had a severe case of divs and classes, rather than headings and paragraphs, I can relate.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18213</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Emil,

Thank you!
I haven't read that one before, but thanks for the tip; I really liked it! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emil,</p>
<p>Thank you!<br />
I haven&#8217;t read that one before, but thanks for the tip; I really liked it! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Emil StenstrÃ¶m</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18090</link>
		<dc:creator>Emil StenstrÃ¶m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can it be that you got some inspiration from a &lt;a href="http://wanderingbarque.com/nonintersecting/2006/11/15/the-s-stands-for-simple" rel="nofollow"&gt;introduction to SOAP&lt;/a&gt; recently? (yours is better!) Great post Robert!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can it be that you got some inspiration from a <a href="http://wanderingbarque.com/nonintersecting/2006/11/15/the-s-stands-for-simple" rel="nofollow">introduction to <acronym title="Simple Object Access Protocol">SOAP</acronym></a> recently? (yours is better!) Great post Robert!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18028</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, all! I'm glad that you liked it! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, all! I&#8217;m glad that you liked it! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Bramus!</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18021</link>
		<dc:creator>Bramus!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 14:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good lord that was fun! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord that was fun! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Huegdon</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-18019</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Huegdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're weird... but I like it.</description>
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		<title>By: Mijn links voor 21 november 2006 &#124; el73</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-17994</link>
		<dc:creator>Mijn links voor 21 november 2006 &#124; el73</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] acties  	  		 				Onderwerpen: 				 					linkdump				 			 	  		  Ron Mueck  (tags:  wow)   Preaching: Google is blind! Geflipt. (tags:  humor goog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mijn links voor 21 november 2006 &#124; el73</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-17995</link>
		<dc:creator>Mijn links voor 21 november 2006 &#124; el73</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] acties  	  		 				Onderwerpen: 				 					linkdump				 			 	  		  Ron Mueck  (tags:  wow)   Preaching: Google is blind! Geflipt. (tags:  humor goog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-17945</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 03:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preaching to the choir! 

I would dress like Lordi!! Surely to impress a dressed-up geek!</description>
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<p>I would dress like Lordi!! Surely to impress a dressed-up geek!</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-17895</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 22:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A M E N !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A M E N !</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Rascher</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-17831</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Rascher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 17:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Robert!

Our Search Engine
Who art in Mountain View
Hallowed be Thy name

Hmm, somebody want to finish that for me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Robert!</p>
<p>Our Search Engine<br />
Who art in Mountain View<br />
Hallowed be Thy name</p>
<p>Hmm, somebody want to finish that for me?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/11/20/preaching-google-is-blind/#comment-17819</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 16:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In true evangelist style, are you going to admit a past riddled with javascript dependency and rollover navigational aids?

Jesus loves a repentent sinner! Amen brother :D</description>
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<p>Jesus loves a repentent sinner! Amen brother <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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