Ok, so if you can’t have native SVG support, then why can’t I get SVG plug-in support?

Also, if this is only ever a beta version for xp why doesn’t it say that? I had my computer replaced by our IT department and it came with IE7 installed. I usually use firefox, so no big deal, but I have to make sure that my applications run on IE too since that seems to be the most widely used. I take exception to the statement “Upgrade with confidence” on the IE7 download page.

What is it with that company, they simply don’t get it and never will.

The upside is that I get to say to Mr customer..”not a problem, have you heard of Opera?…what about firefox?” . Infact I’m so tired of microsoft I push Opera and Firefox before I say hello

JPMORGAN did an indepth look into switching to linux, they concluded that the only reason they can’t was…microsoft office. So no SVG and “always betaware” is great motivation to dump IE and move people another step closer to getting rid of “we ignore standards while punting our own crap” microsoft.

To comment on what Jacobus said:
If you don’t have Firefox or another browser that supports open standards, then tough.” — standing ovation, bravo, I could not agree more, it is just tough, sick of branch coding. Alert(” your browser _IS_ a bug”)

Lets make 2007 “get_rig_of_IE” year, thats what I’ll do for 2007, every client, every call, strangers on the underground, the teller at Tescos….even the postman…”Thanks for my post dude, now go home and install Firefox

Interesting. But would you label that as a problem with IE or with McAfee?

Yes, SVG support would be great.

Olu,

Thanks for an itneresting example!

chris,

My belief is that it will be released for XP with SP 2 as well, but only the future can tell.

If you want to see the full code look at:-

http://www.newprospect-bs.com/index-n2.html

#container {
position: absolute;
left: 50%;
top:0;
width: 710px;
margin-top: 3.5em;
margin-left: -355px;
border: 1px solid #EFEBDE;
background: URL(”topbar4a-min1.gif”) no-repeat top left;
}

I’m baffled…….

As an example, how can they keep ignoring SVG. There is no substitude. I’m just going to start ignoring IE on my web sites. If you don’t have Firefox or another browser that supports open standards, then tough.

Grow up Microsoft! You’re holding back the industry. Your waisting developer time by making us slave into the nights to work around your non-compliant implementations.

And please, PLEASE fix /all/ the CSS bugs before the final release

Thanks for your opinions.

Ivan,

Yes, that makes me sad, too.

I agree with the guy who hates anti-aliasing; I have a great LCD and this still is overbearing. Plus the stupid display bugs, the lack of proper CSS support, and the screwed up UI. Who the hell wants the menus to be hidden by default??

If you care, you can disable the anti-aliasing:
1) Press ‘alt’ to get your menus back. They’ll be in the wrong place, but the whole thing is so horribly implemented that it won’t matter. If you press anything else the menu will vanish, so don’t try to keep typing.
2) Click ‘Tools’, ‘Internet Options’ and then click ‘Advanced’.
3) Under ‘multimedia’ (the perfect noun to describe plain text), there is a tiny, varely visible option called ‘Cleartype’
4) I assume you have to restart IE; I’m not even going to try those steps, lest it erase this post again.

Note: If you bump the keyboard, it will take you back and erase anything you’d typed into forms (yes, I bumped the left arrow while holding alt for the tutorial above, but even so).

Also, the pages load slower than Firefox still; they haven’t fixed the bug wherein IE wouldn’t regognize a proxy if it bit it in the ass. The tabbed browsing implementation is crap; There’s a blank tab that actually means ‘new tab’, the X is only visible on the tab that is active (which means that you have to click twice to kill an unwanted tab), and there’s a delay of half a second before it loads a freaking blank tab.

None of the button icons make sense except for the RSS one, which they admitted to sharing with Firefox.

I got a popup from Google asking me to switch from MSN search; had to run an EXE to install it. So much for security.

Finally, the icons on the so-called “streamlined” display look like crap. The back and forward buttons are jagged and aliased, even thought the text isn’t (which I want to have defined edges so that I can read it).

How this is called a beta, let alone a second beta, is beyond me. Pretty sad, considering that I’ve said that of all MS’s browsers (this one is supposed to be different). I’m STILL waiting for IE6 to come out of beta, which I figured it never would, after 5 years of inactivity.

How crap like this ever made it into production code, I’ll never know.

Yes, SVG support would be most welcome.

Thank you for that info!