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		<title>By: Javer</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-259138</link>
		<dc:creator>Javer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 19:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: links for 2006-01-24 &#187; Kristofer&#8217;s computational biology blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2006-01-24 &#187; Kristofer&#8217;s computational biology blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] java, eclipse, tablet pc, formula one, xbox gaming&#8230; ] 	(tags: personalizedblog) 	 	 	Robertâ€™s talk Â» A war of personalization 	Published on Thursday, January 19th, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: greg pentland</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-5028</link>
		<dc:creator>greg pentland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 May 2006 07:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this talk about ajax personal portals, and web2.0 services made me think what about busines portals?

I know there are enterprise slutions, not web 2.0 though?

My devlopment team and I have undertaken a project to fill this gap,,its personal portals devloped with security for the business in mind - http://www.ovosuite.com.

We are still in private beta but will have a public beta on the 12th June.

It will be intersting to see how this is acceppted by the community, as many people may think its just another portal, but from what ive seen no-one is delivering what we are..?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this talk about <acronym title="Asynchronous Javascript and XML">AJAX</acronym> personal portals, and web2.0 services made me think what about busines portals?</p>
<p>I know there are enterprise slutions, not web 2.0 though?</p>
<p>My devlopment team and I have undertaken a project to fill this gap,,its personal portals devloped with security for the business in mind - <a href="http://www.ovosuite.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ovosuite.com</a>.</p>
<p>We are still in private beta but will have a public beta on the 12th June.</p>
<p>It will be intersting to see how this is acceppted by the community, as many people may think its just another portal, but from what ive seen no-one is delivering what we are..?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-3759</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete,

I understand the problem. My take is that it should work without JavaScript as well, and that there should be a button for manually refreshing the feeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,</p>
<p>I understand the problem. My take is that it should work without JavaScript as well, and that there should be a button for manually refreshing the feeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-3758</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 10:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Netvibes is great, and I use it at home, however in the very "locked down" environment that we have in our office (like a lot of big corporate enterprises) our systems have limited functionality, particularly IE. Of course at work all I get is the "loading"screen with the cross-hatched background   :(

I'd also like some tools to change the look and feel of Netvibes - colour schemes, fonts and so on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Netvibes is great, and I use it at home, however in the very &#8220;locked down&#8221; environment that we have in our office (like a lot of big corporate enterprises) our systems have limited functionality, particularly <acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym>. Of course at work all I get is the &#8220;loading&#8221;screen with the cross-hatched background   <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like some tools to change the look and feel of Netvibes - colour schemes, fonts and so on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-3439</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 07:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mcubed,

Thank you very much! :-)

I understand where you're coming from then. To me, following RSS feeds are vital, hence my focus and need for it. And yes, it will definitely be interesting to see which services that will make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mcubed,</p>
<p>Thank you very much! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I understand where you&#8217;re coming from then. To me, following <acronym title="Really Simple Syndication">RSS</acronym> feeds are vital, hence my focus and need for it. And yes, it will definitely be interesting to see which services that will make it.</p>
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		<title>By: mcubed</title>
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		<dc:creator>mcubed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Mar 2006 05:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your informative and thoughtful review.  You only have about 24 more such services to go before you approach critical mass.  Of course, unless you're really fast, by the time you get through there will be a dozen more.  :-)

I'm afraid I'm still sticking with tried 'n' true Google, despite your convincing case for Netvibes.  Mainly it's because my needs are simple and Google meets them.  But I also wonder how many of these services will be around in a year or two.  Also, I just don't put very much weight on how well start pages like this handle RSS.  Once you get past a certain number of feeds you really need a dedicated reader anyway.  I have just three RSS feeds on my Google start page, just those I want to keep a fairly close eye on.  I could just as easily use FF's live bookmarks for this, but keeping them on Google reduces the clutter.

But I certainly will keep an open mind and am rooting for Netvibes and some of the others like Pageflakes, Homeportal, etc., to stick it out and improve.  I hope you'll continue to cover this corner of Web 2.0 because you did a great job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your informative and thoughtful review.  You only have about 24 more such services to go before you approach critical mass.  Of course, unless you&#8217;re really fast, by the time you get through there will be a dozen more.  <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m still sticking with tried &#8216;n&#8217; true Google, despite your convincing case for Netvibes.  Mainly it&#8217;s because my needs are simple and Google meets them.  But I also wonder how many of these services will be around in a year or two.  Also, I just don&#8217;t put very much weight on how well start pages like this handle <acronym title="Really Simple Syndication">RSS</acronym>.  Once you get past a certain number of feeds you really need a dedicated reader anyway.  I have just three <acronym title="Really Simple Syndication">RSS</acronym> feeds on my Google start page, just those I want to keep a fairly close eye on.  I could just as easily use FF&#8217;s live bookmarks for this, but keeping them on Google reduces the clutter.</p>
<p>But I certainly will keep an open mind and am rooting for Netvibes and some of the others like Pageflakes, Homeportal, etc., to stick it out and improve.  I hope you&#8217;ll continue to cover this corner of Web 2.0 because you did a great job.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-3424</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trovster,

Yes, it's very nice. One thing I really miss though is to mark &lt;code&gt;all&lt;/code&gt; feeds as read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trovster,</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s very nice. One thing I really miss though is to mark <code>all</code> feeds as read.</p>
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		<title>By: trovster</title>
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		<dc:creator>trovster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know swear by Netvibes. It's just perfect. It's reading two gmail accounts, and has loads of other feeds including Flickr, which is nice. I can't wait for the paging feature, so I can add a load more and group them for things like tech, personal and web development... I can't wait!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know swear by Netvibes. It&#8217;s just perfect. It&#8217;s reading two gmail accounts, and has loads of other feeds including Flickr, which is nice. I can&#8217;t wait for the paging feature, so I can add a load more and group them for things like tech, personal and web development&#8230; I can&#8217;t wait!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-3419</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tjeerd,

Cool! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tjeerd,</p>
<p>Cool! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Tjeerd</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-3418</link>
		<dc:creator>Tjeerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2006 09:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Netvibes. I came to the same conclusion looking at all those pages.
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Netvibes. I came to the same conclusion looking at all those pages.<br />
 <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert&#8217;s talk &#187; A closer look at Ma.gnolia</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-3381</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert&#8217;s talk &#187; A closer look at Ma.gnolia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2006 12:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you to go check it out!  &#160;  Related reading       Newsvine - what is it good for?     A war of personalization     Online feed readers reviewed 					 												Post [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you to go check it out!  &nbsp;  Related reading       Newsvine - what is it good for?     A war of personalization     Online feed readers reviewed<br />
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-2719</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I'm sorry to hear that. Please send your feedback to feedback@netvibes.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to hear that. Please send your feedback to <a href="mailto:feedback@netvibes.com">feedback@netvibes.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-2718</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2006 09:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... all I see in Safari for Netvibes is a cross-hatched background and 'Loading...' but it never completes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; all I see in Safari for Netvibes is a cross-hatched background and &#8216;Loading&#8230;&#8217; but it never completes?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 08:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SilentWarrior,

Thank you! I tried GMail together with Netvibes, and the only thing it seems to do is show you unread messages.

trovster,

Thanks! Start does change the color of visited links through CSS, but that doesn't help the slightest if you use different computers.

I love that Google opens the links directly to the web site in question, but on the other hand, I &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; want to be able to at least read the first paragraph of the post before going to the web site. Very rarely the title of the post is sufficient to tell if it's readworthy or not (except for my posts, of course, who are all &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; readworthy... ;-)).

I'd advise you to try Netvibes out, you might like it!

Solon,

Well, try it and let me know if you think I tricked you into it! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SilentWarrior,</p>
<p>Thank you! I tried GMail together with Netvibes, and the only thing it seems to do is show you unread messages.</p>
<p>trovster,</p>
<p>Thanks! Start does change the color of visited links through <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym>, but that doesn&#8217;t help the slightest if you use different computers.</p>
<p>I love that Google opens the links directly to the web site in question, but on the other hand, I <em>really</em> want to be able to at least read the first paragraph of the post before going to the web site. Very rarely the title of the post is sufficient to tell if it&#8217;s readworthy or not (except for my posts, of course, who are all <em>very</em> readworthy&#8230; ;-)).</p>
<p>I&#8217;d advise you to try Netvibes out, you might like it!</p>
<p>Solon,</p>
<p>Well, try it and let me know if you think I tricked you into it! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Solon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Solon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 04:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They all seem a little too visually convoluted for my taste. Netvibes does look better, though, and the gadgets make it the winner for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They all seem a little too visually convoluted for my taste. Netvibes does look better, though, and the gadgets make it the winner for me.</p>
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		<title>By: trovster</title>
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		<dc:creator>trovster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice little round up. I've been using the Google one at home and work for a while now. It's plain but it gets the job done.

I also tried out Start, which looks a lot nicer, didn't have the integration with gmail. However, saying that I don't know whether I actually need that, coz I always have gmail open and then desktop notifier too!

There were two major put-offs with Start. First of all the major factor of not highlighting visited-links. Seriously, with a large set of links this is invaluable. Secondly, the fact it opened links within the site, the formatting was hellish and I'd prefer the original.

I have not used the Yahoo! one, and from that little screenshot, I'll probably avoid it. It looks very early 90s to me.

As for Netvibes. I've tried it, it looks nice, has some nice features. But the simplicity of Google just kept me there. I'm also a little anxious about it reading my emails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice little round up. I&#8217;ve been using the Google one at home and work for a while now. It&#8217;s plain but it gets the job done.</p>
<p>I also tried out Start, which looks a lot nicer, didn&#8217;t have the integration with gmail. However, saying that I don&#8217;t know whether I actually need that, coz I always have gmail open and then desktop notifier too!</p>
<p>There were two major put-offs with Start. First of all the major factor of not highlighting visited-links. Seriously, with a large set of links this is invaluable. Secondly, the fact it opened links within the site, the formatting was hellish and I&#8217;d prefer the original.</p>
<p>I have not used the Yahoo! one, and from that little screenshot, I&#8217;ll probably avoid it. It looks very early 90s to me.</p>
<p>As for Netvibes. I&#8217;ve tried it, it looks nice, has some nice features. But the simplicity of Google just kept me there. I&#8217;m also a little anxious about it reading my emails.</p>
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		<title>By: SilentWarrior</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2006/01/19/a-war-of-personalization/#comment-2695</link>
		<dc:creator>SilentWarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2006 21:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Robert, thank you for that very interesting review! I haven't tried out the Microsoft and the Yahoo! stuff yet, but there's a tiny little thing that stops me from switching from Google Personalized to Netvibes: Can I somehow tell Netvibes that it should also show me read e-mail messages? Like it's with Google, that would be nice (apparently, I'm using Gmail).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Robert, thank you for that very interesting review! I haven&#8217;t tried out the Microsoft and the Yahoo! stuff yet, but there&#8217;s a tiny little thing that stops me from switching from Google Personalized to Netvibes: Can I somehow tell Netvibes that it should also show me read e-mail messages? Like it&#8217;s with Google, that would be nice (apparently, I&#8217;m using Gmail).</p>
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