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		<title>By: Samay @ Indian Handicrafts</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-60742</link>
		<dc:creator>Samay @ Indian Handicrafts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 04:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have just installed google analytics on our website. The classic that is the old format
 is much easier for us as we are new to it. However the new one is a bit complex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have just installed google analytics on our website. The classic that is the old format<br />
 is much easier for us as we are new to it. However the new one is a bit complex.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-55838</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 20:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pablo,

Absolutely, the biggest choice is if you want to host the stats solution yourself or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pablo,</p>
<p>Absolutely, the biggest choice is if you want to host the stats solution yourself or not.</p>
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		<title>By: pablo</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-55827</link>
		<dc:creator>pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use AWStats and they work great.  I don't have to touch any of my webpages, since AWstats works with the IIS log files.  At first, I thought it would be a nightmare to install it and configure it, but the process is really simple.

Of course, you have to have access to the server, and the tool has to be self-hosted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use AWStats and they work great.  I don&#8217;t have to touch any of my webpages, since AWstats works with the <acronym title="Internet Infomation Server">IIS</acronym> log files.  At first, I thought it would be a nightmare to install it and configure it, but the process is really simple.</p>
<p>Of course, you have to have access to the server, and the tool has to be self-hosted.</p>
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		<title>By: Internet Economics</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-34860</link>
		<dc:creator>Internet Economics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Feb 2007 08:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MeasureMap is now part of Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MeasureMap is now part of Google.</p>
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		<title>By: my work</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-12375</link>
		<dc:creator>my work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 06:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google is a most BRAINED search engine... Sergey Brin have to proud...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google is a most BRAINED search engine&#8230; Sergey Brin have to proud&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-4151</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dating Advice,

Thanks for sharing your experiences!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dating Advice,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your experiences!</p>
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		<title>By: Dating Advice</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-4150</link>
		<dc:creator>Dating Advice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2006 19:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used Statcounter and liked it.  I only used the free service, so the logs were rather small.  I did not like the fact every page had a back-link to Statcounter.

On to Google Analytics, I just recently acquired an account.  The server performance has been acceptable.  I am still learning my way around it, but I already donâ€™t like the fact:
You canâ€™t use your back button when mining data.  This is a real pain.  I have only tried this in Firefox.

I have not found a screen where you can view the landing page &#38; keyword used to find that page.  Hopefully they will continue to make this a better web analytics solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used Statcounter and liked it.  I only used the free service, so the logs were rather small.  I did not like the fact every page had a back-link to Statcounter.</p>
<p>On to Google Analytics, I just recently acquired an account.  The server performance has been acceptable.  I am still learning my way around it, but I already donâ€™t like the fact:<br />
You canâ€™t use your back button when mining data.  This is a real pain.  I have only tried this in Firefox.</p>
<p>I have not found a screen where you can view the landing page &amp; keyword used to find that page.  Hopefully they will continue to make this a better web analytics solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-3729</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

Interesting to hear. I've experienced the same with long response times plus the fact that the Google Analytics JavaScript file is a hefty 17 kb is most likely being a factor.

When it comes to alternatives mathing your criteria , I don't have any good suggestions, I'm afraid. If you only want simple JavaScript-based stats, I like &lt;a href="http://www.sundbyberg.se/kulturfritid/fritidochforeningar/simhallen/hittatillsimhallen.4.3bead51065a683c0d80004241.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;StatCounter&lt;/a&gt; a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Interesting to hear. I&#8217;ve experienced the same with long response times plus the fact that the Google Analytics JavaScript file is a hefty 17 <acronym title="Kilobyte">KB</acronym> is most likely being a factor.</p>
<p>When it comes to alternatives mathing your criteria , I don&#8217;t have any good suggestions, I&#8217;m afraid. If you only want simple JavaScript-based stats, I like <a href="http://www.sundbyberg.se/kulturfritid/fritidochforeningar/simhallen/hittatillsimhallen.4.3bead51065a683c0d80004241.html" rel="nofollow">StatCounter</a> a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill O'Donnell</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-3726</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were using GA for our medium-sized web site (about 4 million unique visitors/month), and finally got fed up with performance problems of the initial load. So many times, if you would come to our site the first time, it would be slow and the browser message would be "...waiting for analytics.google.com."  That, coupled with a 24-hour delay on being able to see site or analytic changes made it not worth doing. 

I've been trying to find an analytics tool that can be self-hosted, or at the very least, be proxied through our site.  Mint looks somewhat interesting, but I could not find a free demo of it. The php/mysql nature of it makes me want to load test before I buy.

Anybody know of a self-hosted analytics tool they like?

I really don't want to home-brew it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were using GA for our medium-sized web site (about 4 million unique visitors/month), and finally got fed up with performance problems of the initial load. So many times, if you would come to our site the first time, it would be slow and the browser message would be &#8220;&#8230;waiting for analytics.google.com.&#8221;  That, coupled with a 24-hour delay on being able to see site or analytic changes made it not worth doing. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to find an analytics tool that can be self-hosted, or at the very least, be proxied through our site.  Mint looks somewhat interesting, but I could not find a free demo of it. The <acronym title="Hypertext PreProcessing">PHP</acronym>/mysql nature of it makes me want to load test before I buy.</p>
<p>Anybody know of a self-hosted analytics tool they like?</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t want to home-brew it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-2631</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kashif,

I'm sorry, I just heard that you need an invite to use it. When I started using it, I could just use my Google account and start with the service right away.

And unfortunately I can't find any way to invite people from my account. At least this link explains their current situation: &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/analytics/progress.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.google.com/analytics/progress.html&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kashif,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, I just heard that you need an invite to use it. When I started using it, I could just use my Google account and start with the service right away.</p>
<p>And unfortunately I can&#8217;t find any way to invite people from my account. At least this link explains their current situation: <a href="http://www.google.com/analytics/progress.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/analytics/progress.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Kashif Razzaqui</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-2629</link>
		<dc:creator>Kashif Razzaqui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds interesting
Does anyone have a spare invite? Please send it across.
Thanks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds interesting<br />
Does anyone have a spare invite? Please send it across.<br />
Thanks <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-1949</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johan,

Yes, StatCounter is added through an included script, a short inline script with some parameters, and a &lt;code&gt;noscript&lt;/code&gt; block that has an image.

I don't really know how it would work as a DOM tracker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johan,</p>
<p>Yes, StatCounter is added through an included script, a short inline script with some parameters, and a <code>noscript</code> block that has an image.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really know how it would work as a <acronym title="Document Object Model">DOM</acronym> tracker.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-1948</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Robert Nyman:

The statCounter: how is it added to the page with a JS and and image?

The excellent &lt;a href="http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/archives//DOM_extreme_tracker/" rel="nofollow"&gt;experiment&lt;/a&gt; to turn Extreme Tracker from a kludgey inline JS anno 1990s into a DOM tracker would this apply to the statcounter to: the kludgyness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Robert Nyman:</p>
<p>The statCounter: how is it added to the page with a JS and and image?</p>
<p>The excellent <a href="http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/archives//DOM_extreme_tracker/" rel="nofollow">experiment</a> to turn Extreme Tracker from a kludgey inline JS anno 1990s into a <acronym title="Document Object Model">DOM</acronym> tracker would this apply to the statcounter to: the kludgyness?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-1865</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jens,

Geez...
That sounds like a lot.  Maybe I need to look into this. God knows one can accomplish many things in 17kb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jens,</p>
<p>Geez&#8230;<br />
That sounds like a lot.  Maybe I need to look into this. God knows one can accomplish many things in 17kb.</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Meiert</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-1863</link>
		<dc:creator>Jens Meiert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Har, once again - I decided not to use Google Analytics.

Why? Because my first evaluation showed me a JS file of &lt;strong&gt;17 KB&lt;/strong&gt;. This is just &lt;strong&gt;incredible&lt;/strong&gt; (it's outrageous, to be honest), and an absolute no-go. Related to my homepage, this would just &lt;strong&gt;double&lt;/strong&gt; everything you need to download. And adding that the 3 KB size of the Mint script almost made me refuse Mint, you'll probably know what I mean.

(Okay guys, I'll nonetheless give GA a try, but only temporarily. I &lt;em&gt;love&lt;/em&gt; fast web sites, and I don't want to bother my users by scripts where they are the last who benefit.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Har, once again - I decided not to use Google Analytics.</p>
<p>Why? Because my first evaluation showed me a JS file of <strong>17 <acronym title="Kilobyte">KB</acronym></strong>. This is just <strong>incredible</strong> (it&#8217;s outrageous, to be honest), and an absolute no-go. Related to my homepage, this would just <strong>double</strong> everything you need to download. And adding that the 3 <acronym title="Kilobyte">KB</acronym> size of the Mint script almost made me refuse Mint, you&#8217;ll probably know what I mean.</p>
<p>(Okay guys, I&#8217;ll nonetheless give GA a try, but only temporarily. I <em>love</em> fast web sites, and I don&#8217;t want to bother my users by scripts where they are the last who benefit.)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-1845</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 06:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kalle,

Thanks for sharing!
That does indeed sound like good news if it happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kalle,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing!<br />
That does indeed sound like good news if it happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalle Wibeck</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-1844</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalle Wibeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 05:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert, regarding the US time-zone and date format mentioned in your article I received this e-mail from the Analytics Team yesterday (4 days after I sent my question):
&lt;blockquote&gt;Hello Kalle,

Thank you for your email.

I understand that you would like to change the date format and time zone
of your reports. At this time, all reports are displayed in the American
date format and in Pacific Standard time. However, we understand the need
for users to have reporting in different time zones as well as different
date formats and will take your thoughts into account as we move forward
with our product development.

We greatly appreciate any feedback or suggestions for ways we can improve
Google Analytics. Your comments provide us with the assistance we need to
optimize our program, so please continue to give us feedback in the
future.

If you have any additional questions or concerns, please visit our
Analytics Support at  http://www.google.com/support/analytics. 

Sincerely, 

The Google Analytics Team&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I thought that this might be interesting for anyone else that are disturbed by the "awful" US date format ; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert, regarding the US time-zone and date format mentioned in your article I received this e-mail from the Analytics Team yesterday (4 days after I sent my question):</p>
<blockquote><p>Hello Kalle,</p>
<p>Thank you for your email.</p>
<p>I understand that you would like to change the date format and time zone<br />
of your reports. At this time, all reports are displayed in the American<br />
date format and in Pacific Standard time. However, we understand the need<br />
for users to have reporting in different time zones as well as different<br />
date formats and will take your thoughts into account as we move forward<br />
with our product development.</p>
<p>We greatly appreciate any feedback or suggestions for ways we can improve<br />
Google Analytics. Your comments provide us with the assistance we need to<br />
optimize our program, so please continue to give us feedback in the<br />
future.</p>
<p>If you have any additional questions or concerns, please visit our<br />
Analytics Support at  <a href="http://www.google.com/support/analytics" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/support/analytics</a>. </p>
<p>Sincerely, </p>
<p>The Google Analytics Team</p></blockquote>
<p>I thought that this might be interesting for anyone else that are disturbed by the &#8220;awful&#8221; US date format ; )</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-1800</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 10:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kalle,

Ah, interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kalle,</p>
<p>Ah, interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Kalle Wibeck</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-1779</link>
		<dc:creator>Kalle Wibeck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Google has made a very faulty estimation about the interest in Analytics. Now they hace added this message to the "Check status" page:
&lt;blockquote cite="Google Apologie"&gt;The demand for Google Analytics surpassed even our highest expectations and as a result some customers may temporarily experience report-update delays. All data continues to be collected and no data has been lost. We are currently adding resources to ensure high-quality service. We apologize for any inconvenience.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Google has made a very faulty estimation about the interest in Analytics. Now they hace added this message to the &#8220;Check status&#8221; page:</p>
<blockquote cite="Google Apologie"><p>The demand for Google Analytics surpassed even our highest expectations and as a result some customers may temporarily experience report-update delays. All data continues to be collected and no data has been lost. We are currently adding resources to ensure high-quality service. We apologize for any inconvenience.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/11/17/google-analytics-a-first-impression/#comment-1765</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jens,

Ha ha, I know what you mean!
I use two here for the moment, but if Measure Map will ever give me a chance, I guess it will be three, too... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jens,</p>
<p>Ha ha, I know what you mean!<br />
I use two here for the moment, but if Measure Map will ever give me a chance, I guess it will be three, too&#8230; <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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