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		<title>By: Pro JavaScript Techniques by John Resig - Robert&#8217;s talk</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/09/19/javascript-influences/#comment-31661</link>
		<dc:creator>Pro JavaScript Techniques by John Resig - Robert&#8217;s talk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/09/19/javascript-influences/#comment-1055</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gunnar,

Yes, JavaScript Objects is truly a great book!

I guess you're talking about the scrollTop &lt;em&gt;property&lt;/em&gt;? In that case, it can be found here: &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/properties/scrolltop.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;scrollTop Property&lt;/a&gt;.

Regarding the array thing: that's not something that should be in a documentation about the Document Object Model reference, it's should be in one about scripting. You can check the &lt;a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/script56/html/js56jsoriJScript.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;JScript reference&lt;/a&gt;, but I'm not sure it'll be in there.


But in the end, I'm sure you're right that there are things that aren't documented but still available in Internet Explorer.

Also, the post is updated with links to different references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gunnar,</p>
<p>Yes, JavaScript Objects is truly a great book!</p>
<p>I guess you&#8217;re talking about the scrollTop <em>property</em>? In that case, it can be found here: <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/properties/scrolltop.asp" rel="nofollow">scrollTop Property</a>.</p>
<p>Regarding the array thing: that&#8217;s not something that should be in a documentation about the Document Object Model reference, it&#8217;s should be in one about scripting. You can check the <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/script56/html/js56jsoriJScript.asp" rel="nofollow">JScript reference</a>, but I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;ll be in there.</p>
<p>But in the end, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re right that there are things that aren&#8217;t documented but still available in Internet Explorer.</p>
<p>Also, the post is updated with links to different references.</p>
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		<title>By: Gunnar Franklin</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/09/19/javascript-influences/#comment-1050</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunnar Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 20:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JavaScript Objects by Tom Myers and Alexander Nakhimovsky is still my absolute favourite among these recommendations.
The book is standing next to my computer screen so I can have a look at my idols every day I go to work. 
Now, over to something completely different: Why isnt every available DOM-function/method documented in MSDN? 
There is a method called scrollTop for instance. It works. There is nothing to be found about it in the entire msdn library. You can initialize an array by writing myArr = []; Not documented.
So what am I coming to? Of course: What else is in there that we dont now about? Have a feeling that there are some blokes over in Redmond who sits on some useful code just to maintain a leading position over us hard working MS-slaves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JavaScript Objects by Tom Myers and Alexander Nakhimovsky is still my absolute favourite among these recommendations.<br />
The book is standing next to my computer screen so I can have a look at my idols every day I go to work.<br />
Now, over to something completely different: Why isnt every available <acronym title="Document Object Model">DOM</acronym>-function/method documented in <acronym title="Microsoft Developer Network">MSDN</acronym>?<br />
There is a method called scrollTop for instance. It works. There is nothing to be found about it in the entire <acronym title="Microsoft Developer Network">MSDN</acronym> library. You can initialize an array by writing myArr = []; Not documented.<br />
So what am I coming to? Of course: What else is in there that we dont now about? Have a feeling that there are some blokes over in Redmond who sits on some useful code just to maintain a leading position over us hard working <acronym title="Microsoft">MS</acronym>-slaves.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/09/19/javascript-influences/#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 12:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I hope they help! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I hope they help! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/09/19/javascript-influences/#comment-1045</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 12:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this.
I can't say I've enjoyed dabbling with JS so far, all those *seemingly.unecessarily.long.variables* ;)

Hopefully the book links you've provided will help me temper the JS beast and get on with it a little better, thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this.<br />
I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;ve enjoyed dabbling with JS so far, all those *seemingly.unecessarily.long.variables* <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hopefully the book links you&#8217;ve provided will help me temper the JS beast and get on with it a little better, thanks again.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/09/19/javascript-influences/#comment-1032</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin,

No problem. Good luck! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin,</p>
<p>No problem. Good luck! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Riches</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/09/19/javascript-influences/#comment-1031</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Riches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aah right. Thank-you. I'm a complete newbie to Javascript really - the only parts I have touched are the advertisements on my website - I made them show up by trial and error! Javascript and other languages (internet + German real life!) are definitely some avenues I'd like to go down in life. I would love to have a bit of knowledge in these areas, so thanks again :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aah right. Thank-you. I&#8217;m a complete newbie to Javascript really - the only parts I have touched are the advertisements on my website - I made them show up by trial and error! Javascript and other languages (internet + German real life!) are definitely some avenues I&#8217;d like to go down in life. I would love to have a bit of knowledge in these areas, so thanks again <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/09/19/javascript-influences/#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 06:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin,

Thank you, I'm glad you like it!

DOM stands for Document Object Model, and is well explained in a couple of the above links. For instance, in: &lt;a href="http://www.brainjar.com/dhtml/intro/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Introduction to the Document Object Model&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin,</p>
<p>Thank you, I&#8217;m glad you like it!</p>
<p><acronym title="Document Object Model">DOM</acronym> stands for Document Object Model, and is well explained in a couple of the above links. For instance, in: <a href="http://www.brainjar.com/dhtml/intro/" rel="nofollow">Introduction to the Document Object Model</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Riches</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/09/19/javascript-influences/#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Riches</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 20:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there. I'm a newbie and found your site c/o 9rules. I'd just like to ask what is meant by DOM? Where could I find a definition on the site (if there is one that is)? Oh, and a quick note to say - fab design, and exhilirating picture above! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there. I&#8217;m a newbie and found your site c/o 9rules. I&#8217;d just like to ask what is meant by <acronym title="Document Object Model">DOM</acronym>? Where could I find a definition on the site (if there is one that is)? Oh, and a quick note to say - fab design, and exhilirating picture above! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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