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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-27952</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 08:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saeid,

Nice, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saeid,</p>
<p>Nice, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Saeid Zebardast</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-27715</link>
		<dc:creator>Saeid Zebardast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 20:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow
Tanks!
I translate this post to persian.
&lt;a href="http://dev.cheshmak.net/?p=73" rel="nofollow"&gt;This post in persian (Farsi)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow<br />
Tanks!<br />
I translate this post to persian.<br />
<a href="http://dev.cheshmak.net/?p=73" rel="nofollow">This post in persian (Farsi)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-18959</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Nov 2006 13:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rahul,

I'm glad it helped. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rahul,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad it helped. <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Rahul Dev Katarey</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-18831</link>
		<dc:creator>Rahul Dev Katarey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 08:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 

its a very useful tip Thanks!


Rahul Dev&lt;a href="http://www.katarey.com" title="freelance web designer" rel="nofollow"&gt;
http://www.katarey.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi </p>
<p>its a very useful tip Thanks!</p>
<p>Rahul Dev<a href="http://www.katarey.com" title="freelance web designer" rel="nofollow"><br />
</a><a href="http://www.katarey.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.katarey.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-1961</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 10:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

When it comes to losing performance, I have no example. However, I'd love to see one, if it affects slow computers etc.

I haven't regarded the form issue as a showstopper, either. Nevertheless, it's not that a big deal to specify the tag names specifically, so I do it nowadays just to be on the safe side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>When it comes to losing performance, I have no example. However, I&#8217;d love to see one, if it affects slow computers etc.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t regarded the form issue as a showstopper, either. Nevertheless, it&#8217;s not that a big deal to specify the tag names specifically, so I do it nowadays just to be on the safe side.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cook</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-1960</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 05:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn't experience that at all. I've heard (or read) it suggested and watched for it in my tests. It must be a nanosecond lag. Nor have I seen actual measures reported, just the suspicions.

I've also read about the * rule interrupting the natural behavior of some form elements. I specifically dropped in all the inputs, selects and submits I could think of with no negative effects. I'd like to see an example somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t experience that at all. I&#8217;ve heard (or read) it suggested and watched for it in my tests. It must be a nanosecond lag. Nor have I seen actual measures reported, just the suspicions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also read about the * rule interrupting the natural behavior of some form elements. I specifically dropped in all the inputs, selects and submits I could think of with no negative effects. I&#8217;d like to see an example somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 10:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

Ha ha! :-D
Thank you!

I'm glad it helped you, although nowadays I normally use something more like &lt;a href="http://kurafire.net/log/archive/2005/07/16/starting-css-based-design" rel="nofollow"&gt;Faruk's CSS&lt;/a&gt;, just because of the talk of slowing web browser performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>Ha ha! <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Thank you!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad it helped you, although nowadays I normally use something more like <a href="http://kurafire.net/log/archive/2005/07/16/starting-css-based-design" rel="nofollow">Faruk&#8217;s <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym></a>, just because of the talk of slowing web browser performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 00:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I'm late to this party (by months) but I have to say implementing this rule has resolved a &lt;em&gt;world&lt;/em&gt; of issues. I'm now staring at a layout that works in both Firefox and IE: styled menu lists, h1s, paragraphs, the works. Aaahhhhh!

My only frustration is that I didn't catch on to this earlier. It's not mentioned in the handful of CSS / Web Standards books that I have. It should be, and in bold face sized extra large too.

Thanks Robert. I'm emailing Santa of your good deeds right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m late to this party (by months) but I have to say implementing this rule has resolved a <em>world</em> of issues. I&#8217;m now staring at a layout that works in both Firefox and IE: styled menu lists, h1s, paragraphs, the works. Aaahhhhh!</p>
<p>My only frustration is that I didn&#8217;t catch on to this earlier. It&#8217;s not mentioned in the handful of <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> / Web Standards books that I have. It should be, and in bold face sized extra large too.</p>
<p>Thanks Robert. I&#8217;m emailing Santa of your good deeds right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jens,

It's the best one, in my opinion!  :-)
Thanks for the link to Eric's article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jens,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the best one, in my opinion!  <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Thanks for the link to Eric&#8217;s article.</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Wedin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jens Wedin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is my favorite css too :D

Eric has some more stuff that he is "undoing" in his article, but I mostly do not use that other stuff.

http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/15/emreallyem-undoing-htmlcss/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is my favorite <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> too <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Eric has some more stuff that he is &#8220;undoing&#8221; in his article, but I mostly do not use that other stuff.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/15/emreallyem-undoing-htmlcss/" rel="nofollow">http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/09/15/emreallyem-undoing-htmlcss/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sudar,

I'm glad it helped!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sudar,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad it helped!  <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sudar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sudar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2005 04:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Robert.

I was really breaking my head to get a consistent cross-browser look and this tip really makes it easy for me to control every aspect using code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Robert.</p>
<p>I was really breaking my head to get a consistent cross-browser look and this tip really makes it easy for me to control every aspect using code.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faruk,

Thank you!

SilentWarrior and others, Faruk's post is a good example of how to attain a consistent cross-browser and cross-platform look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faruk,</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>SilentWarrior and others, Faruk&#8217;s post is a good example of how to attain a consistent cross-browser and cross-platform look.</p>
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		<title>By: Faruk AteÅŸ</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-671</link>
		<dc:creator>Faruk AteÅŸ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here Robert, on your request:

&lt;a href="http://kurafire.net/log/archive/2005/07/16/starting-css-based-design" rel="nofollow"&gt;my &lt;code&gt;initial.css&lt;/code&gt; file explained&lt;/a&gt;. A good way to start CSS based design :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here Robert, on your request:</p>
<p><a href="http://kurafire.net/log/archive/2005/07/16/starting-css-based-design" rel="nofollow">my <code>initial.css</code> file explained</a>. A good way to start <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> based design <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-670</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SilentWarrior,

Absolutely, things like background-color, color and their likes can also be added through it.

When it comes to font specifically, I tend to set that on the &lt;code&gt;body&lt;/code&gt; element and let it be inherited down through the elements.

If you look at my &lt;a href="http://robertnyman.com/roblab/javascript-text-size-in-ie.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Find out the current Text Size setting in IE&lt;/a&gt; example, that's how I usually apply the font.

When it comes to slowing down the parsing, it's a valid question, but personally I don't think it's even noticeable. I know of &lt;em&gt;many&lt;/em&gt; web developers out there that use this, and amongst these are a lot of the high-profile ones too, like Eric Meyer. So to me, it seemes like a well-tested and approved concept.

guywiththebike,

Thank you, I'm happy to hear that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SilentWarrior,</p>
<p>Absolutely, things like background-color, color and their likes can also be added through it.</p>
<p>When it comes to font specifically, I tend to set that on the <code>body</code> element and let it be inherited down through the elements.</p>
<p>If you look at my <a href="http://robertnyman.com/roblab/javascript-text-size-in-ie.htm" rel="nofollow">Find out the current Text Size setting in <acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym></a> example, that&#8217;s how I usually apply the font.</p>
<p>When it comes to slowing down the parsing, it&#8217;s a valid question, but personally I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s even noticeable. I know of <em>many</em> web developers out there that use this, and amongst these are a lot of the high-profile ones too, like Eric Meyer. So to me, it seemes like a well-tested and approved concept.</p>
<p>guywiththebike,</p>
<p>Thank you, I&#8217;m happy to hear that!</p>
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		<title>By: guywiththebike</title>
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		<dc:creator>guywiththebike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Robert, thanks a lot.

That is going to help me out immensely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Robert, thanks a lot.</p>
<p>That is going to help me out immensely!</p>
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		<title>By: SilentWarrior</title>
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		<dc:creator>SilentWarrior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:34:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert,

That is indeed very useful. I also plan to use it in future projects.

But wouldnâ€™t it also be useful to expand it even a little more, e.g. add color:#000 and background-color:#fff? Or even some other things, like default font or so.

I would also be interested in how far it slows down parsing a web site and if it is too long for the standard visitor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert,</p>
<p>That is indeed very useful. I also plan to use it in future projects.</p>
<p>But wouldnâ€™t it also be useful to expand it even a little more, e.g. add color:#000 and background-color:#fff? Or even some other things, like default font or so.</p>
<p>I would also be interested in how far it slows down parsing a web site and if it is too long for the standard visitor.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/15/the-most-important-css-rule/#comment-663</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne,

That was an interesting aspect! Personally, I've never experienced any performance problems when it comes to it. Do you have any examples where it's noticeable?

Also, when it comes to removing it all, what other default styling do you have in mind?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,</p>
<p>That was an interesting aspect! Personally, I&#8217;ve never experienced any performance problems when it comes to it. Do you have any examples where it&#8217;s noticeable?</p>
<p>Also, when it comes to removing it all, what other default styling do you have in mind?</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Using universal selectors slows down the parser. And while you are removing default style, why not remove all of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using universal selectors slows down the parser. And while you are removing default style, why not remove all of it?</p>
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