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	<title>Comments on: RobLab addition - Dynamic column width without tables</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/07/roblab-addition-dynamic-column-width-without-tables/#comment-669</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edward,

&lt;blockquote&gt;Aye, it does, but in this instance the content rarely extended beyond 3 lines so it was easy to deal with.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Ah, good, then it should be ok.  :-)

Good luck now when you have time to focus on the most important part of your solution!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward,</p>
<blockquote><p>Aye, it does, but in this instance the content rarely extended beyond 3 lines so it was easy to deal with.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ah, good, then it should be ok.  <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Good luck now when you have time to focus on the most important part of your solution!  <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Edward Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/07/roblab-addition-dynamic-column-width-without-tables/#comment-667</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;doesnâ€™t the content flow below your fixed width column as well, if the that one isnâ€™t high enough to match the other one?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Aye, it does, but in this instance the content rarely extended beyond 3 lines so it was easy to deal with.

I've spent the best part of a week writing stored procedures for SQL Server 2000 on the dedicated server that drives this system so now I'm back on the front-end I'll polish it up and employ a variant of your method to keep it far more robust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>doesnâ€™t the content flow below your fixed width column as well, if the that one isnâ€™t high enough to match the other one?</p></blockquote>
<p>Aye, it does, but in this instance the content rarely extended beyond 3 lines so it was easy to deal with.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve spent the best part of a week writing stored procedures for <acronym title="Structured Query Language (a database standard)">SQL</acronym> Server 2000 on the dedicated server that drives this system so now I&#8217;m back on the front-end I&#8217;ll polish it up and employ a variant of your method to keep it far more robust.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/07/roblab-addition-dynamic-column-width-without-tables/#comment-646</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Edward,

Thank you!

I didn't want to resort to using scripts as my first option either, but the client in this scenario had at least five different columnar layouts and combinations that I needed to control.

Also, as in your case, there were no particular rows to speak of either, so a table felt like the wrong approach, and the control I gained through &lt;acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets"&gt;CSS&lt;/acronym&gt; was amazing!  :-)

To me, I couldn't use your technique since both columns' width would be dependant on how wide the other column got. And, in your solution, doesn't the content flow below your fixed width column as well, if the that one isn't high enough to match the other one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edward,</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t want to resort to using scripts as my first option either, but the client in this scenario had at least five different columnar layouts and combinations that I needed to control.</p>
<p>Also, as in your case, there were no particular rows to speak of either, so a table felt like the wrong approach, and the control I gained through <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets"></acronym><acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> was amazing!  <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To me, I couldn&#8217;t use your technique since both columns&#8217; width would be dependant on how wide the other column got. And, in your solution, doesn&#8217;t the content flow below your fixed width column as well, if the that one isn&#8217;t high enough to match the other one?</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Clarke</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/07/roblab-addition-dynamic-column-width-without-tables/#comment-645</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 12:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a nifty display of element manipulation within CSS and it's something I'm currently looking into myself.

A recent task of mine is rolling out a &lt;abbr title="Customer Relationship Management"&gt;CRM&lt;/abbr&gt; system for a Government initiative here [&lt;abbr title="United Kingdom"&gt;UK&lt;/abbr&gt;] called an Enterprise Hub. There is a particular section I am at requiring this feature however my approach is comparitavely simplistic, &lt;em&gt;but works&lt;/em&gt;.

The structure is two columns within the page and the method I employed was to have a containing DIV, float a DIV nesting within it, control it's width alone and let the rest of the data flow around it.

Visually it works for me on all browsers as the network is made up of all sorts of user agents and there is no script involved.

Tables are out for the fact there were two columns and no rows, neither of which are labelled. The content will fundamentally determine if you have employed the right approach to output the information and in my case it wasn't justified.

Good example!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a nifty display of element manipulation within <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> and it&#8217;s something I&#8217;m currently looking into myself.</p>
<p>A recent task of mine is rolling out a <abbr title="Customer Relationship Management">CRM</abbr> system for a Government initiative here [<abbr title="United Kingdom">UK</abbr>] called an Enterprise Hub. There is a particular section I am at requiring this feature however my approach is comparitavely simplistic, <em>but works</em>.</p>
<p>The structure is two columns within the page and the method I employed was to have a containing DIV, float a DIV nesting within it, control it&#8217;s width alone and let the rest of the data flow around it.</p>
<p>Visually it works for me on all browsers as the network is made up of all sorts of user agents and there is no script involved.</p>
<p>Tables are out for the fact there were two columns and no rows, neither of which are labelled. The content will fundamentally determine if you have employed the right approach to output the information and in my case it wasn&#8217;t justified.</p>
<p>Good example!</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/07/roblab-addition-dynamic-column-width-without-tables/#comment-639</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jens,

In general, I agree with you. There should normally only be one (correct) version of the code.

But because &lt;acronym title="Internet Explorer"&gt;IE&lt;/acronym&gt; has got such an extremely  poor support for &lt;acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets"&gt;CSS&lt;/acronym&gt;, in some cases I choose to implement fixes to cover up for this to get a better web site in the end.

For example, I'd rather use this &lt;a href="http://robertnyman.com/roblab/css.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;fix for fixed positioning in IE&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;code&gt;position:fixed&lt;/code&gt; for other browser to have a footer that's constantly located at the bottom of the page, than to use frames for it.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Is there an example somewhere?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If you mean the dynamic columns, there's a link in my post above to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jens,</p>
<p>In general, I agree with you. There should normally only be one (correct) version of the code.</p>
<p>But because <acronym title="Internet Explorer"></acronym><acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym> has got such an extremely  poor support for <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets"></acronym><acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym>, in some cases I choose to implement fixes to cover up for this to get a better web site in the end.</p>
<p>For example, I&#8217;d rather use this <a href="http://robertnyman.com/roblab/css.htm" rel="nofollow">fix for fixed positioning in <acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym></a> and <code>position:fixed</code> for other browser to have a footer that&#8217;s constantly located at the bottom of the page, than to use frames for it.</p>
<blockquote><p>Is there an example somewhere?</p></blockquote>
<p>If you mean the dynamic columns, there&#8217;s a link in my post above to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jens Wedin</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/07/07/roblab-addition-dynamic-column-width-without-tables/#comment-638</link>
		<dc:creator>Jens Wedin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2005 13:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing about making special stuff for IE, are we going down the same road as we did in early 90's with javascript, two versions, one for ie and one for netscape?

Is there an example somewhere?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing about making special stuff for <acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym>, are we going down the same road as we did in early 90&#8217;s with javascript, two versions, one for <acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym> and one for netscape?</p>
<p>Is there an example somewhere?</p>
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