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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/27/html-5/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne,

If that's the case, I, for one, think it's a good thing if W3C collaborate (further) with WHATWG.
Hopefully it will result in something astonishing!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the case, I, for one, think it&#8217;s a good thing if <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym> collaborate (further) with WHATWG.<br />
Hopefully it will result in something astonishing!  <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/27/html-5/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 20:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the W3C is based on membership.

Besides, the W3C is looking together with the WHATWG at the moment how they can cooperate and produce the standards outside the normal W3C production process. At least, as far as I understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym> is based on membership.</p>
<p>Besides, the <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym> is looking together with the WHATWG at the moment how they can cooperate and produce the standards outside the normal <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym> production process. At least, as far as I understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/27/html-5/#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anne,

Good to see you here!

&#62; Also, if many browsers that are members of the W3C implement this the W3C has to acknowledge that and do something with it.

This is an interesting point! They definitely have to acknowledge it then, but the question is if it's the way to go.
It comes across as a small rebellion againt W3C, like "we're not totally happy with the specifications, so let's create our own, and implement them in enough web browsers so the W3C &lt;em&gt;has&lt;/em&gt; to include them".

Kind of like submission by force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anne,</p>
<p>Good to see you here!</p>
<p>&gt; Also, if many browsers that are members of the <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym> implement this the <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym> has to acknowledge that and do something with it.</p>
<p>This is an interesting point! They definitely have to acknowledge it then, but the question is if it&#8217;s the way to go.<br />
It comes across as a small rebellion againt <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym>, like &#8220;we&#8217;re not totally happy with the specifications, so let&#8217;s create our own, and implement them in enough web browsers so the <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym> <em>has</em> to include them&#8221;.</p>
<p>Kind of like submission by force.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/27/html-5/#comment-220</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 18:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It &lt;a href="http://listserver.dreamhost.com/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2005-April/003472.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;came up&lt;/a&gt; on the mailing list. However, as HTML5 will include Web Forms 2 I am not sure if it is a good name.

It does include more than you would expect from just a markup language, but I'm not sure if that is relevant enough. O well, eventually it will be decided.

I do think the W3C will be involved as they are also involved with Web Forms 2 at the moment and this specification will supercede that one. Also, if many browsers that are members of the W3C implement this the W3C has to acknowledge that and do something with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It <a href="http://listserver.dreamhost.com/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2005-April/003472.html" rel="nofollow">came up</a> on the mailing list. However, as HTML5 will include Web Forms 2 I am not sure if it is a good name.</p>
<p>It does include more than you would expect from just a markup language, but I&#8217;m not sure if that is relevant enough. O well, eventually it will be decided.</p>
<p>I do think the <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym> will be involved as they are also involved with Web Forms 2 at the moment and this specification will supercede that one. Also, if many browsers that are members of the <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym> implement this the <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym> has to acknowledge that and do something with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/27/html-5/#comment-219</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a good name!  :-D
I remember seeing it somewhere too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good name!  <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I remember seeing it somewhere too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Olsson</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/27/html-5/#comment-218</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy Olsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 13:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't remember where I saw it, but someone suggested HAppy (HTML Applications /something-or-other/). :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t remember where I saw it, but someone suggested HAppy (<acronym title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</acronym> Applications /something-or-other/). <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/27/html-5/#comment-217</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can live with WAML!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can live with WAML!  <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Faruk Ates</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/27/html-5/#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>Faruk Ates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WAML! - Web Applications Markup Language

WAHT? - Web Applications HyperText

THWAP - The Hypertext Web Applications Project


I like the last one best ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WAML! - Web Applications Markup Language</p>
<p>WAHT? - Web Applications HyperText</p>
<p>THWAP - The Hypertext Web Applications Project</p>
<p>I like the last one best <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/27/html-5/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given the participants' connection to W3C, yes, it is likely to happen.

Regarding the name, Web Applications is what it is about. So maybe just WA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the participants&#8217; connection to <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym>, yes, it is likely to happen.</p>
<p>Regarding the name, Web Applications is what it is about. So maybe just WA?</p>
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		<title>By: Faruk Ates</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/27/html-5/#comment-214</link>
		<dc:creator>Faruk Ates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether the W3C will adopt it is indeed a good question, but I think it's safe to be hopeful there.

As for the name, I agree, but I can't come up with a better name at all, myself. It's neither HTML nor XHTML, yet it's both of them. Naming it one or the other seems a bit off, to me. I propose NHTML - New HyperText Markup Language. =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether the <acronym title="World Wide Web Consortium">W3C</acronym> will adopt it is indeed a good question, but I think it&#8217;s safe to be hopeful there.</p>
<p>As for the name, I agree, but I can&#8217;t come up with a better name at all, myself. It&#8217;s neither <acronym title="HyperText Markup Language">HTML</acronym> nor <acronym title="eXtensible HyperText Markup Language - HTML reformulated as XML">XHTML</acronym>, yet it&#8217;s both of them. Naming it one or the other seems a bit off, to me. I propose NHTML - New HyperText Markup Language. =)</p>
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