Comments on: Semantics http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/ Web development and Internet trends Fri, 05 Dec 2008 11:11:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Stefan Van Reeth http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-28400 Stefan Van Reeth Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:48:27 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-28400 Finally a topic everyone agrees on :). Finally a topic everyone agrees on :).

]]> By: Tip(z) » Vad innebär semantik? http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-13588 Tip(z) » Vad innebär semantik? Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:55:22 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-13588 [...] antik om i webbsammanhang? Enkelt uttryckt: att använda rätt element i rätt sammanhang. Robert Nyman skriver om det. Inga kommentarer Inga [...] [...] antik om i webbsammanhang? Enkelt uttryckt: att använda rätt element i rätt sammanhang. Robert Nyman skriver om det.
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]]> By: Robert’s talk » Three separated layers, capisce? http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-3678 Robert’s talk » Three separated layers, capisce? Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:32:04 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-3678 [...] oks (CSS) Behavior/interaction(JavaScript)   This is so basic, just like using semantics. However, as Jeremy Keith writes in his excellent piece Gotta keep ‘em separated [...] [...] oks (CSS) Behavior/interaction(JavaScript)   This is so basic, just like using semantics. However, as Jeremy Keith writes in his excellent piece Gotta keep ‘em separated [...]

]]> By: Robert’s talk » How to get a good search engine ranking http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-2741 Robert’s talk » How to get a good search engine ranking Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:17:19 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-2741 [...] r terms that amaze me . These are my advices: Semantic code Make sure you write semanticly correct code, meaning that you need to use the correct element for the right situatio [...] [...] r terms that amaze me . These are my advices: Semantic code Make sure you write semanticly correct code, meaning that you need to use the correct element for the right situatio [...]

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-1409 Robert Nyman Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:07:32 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-1409 Mikhail, Thanks for sharing. I'm also glad you liked the post! :-) Mikhail,

Thanks for sharing. I’m also glad you liked the post! :-)

]]> By: Mikhail Bozgounov http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-1408 Mikhail Bozgounov Tue, 25 Oct 2005 13:01:51 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-1408 Tableitis & Divitis. Yes, very dangerous diseases... and still like 95% of the Web is ill with them... My last website, where I've used tables, was 2 years ago. Then I had 2-3 months of a "transitional" period (no tables, a lot of classes and DIVs) and then... I believe, I ewas finally cured by just learning how Dan Cederholm and Doug Bowman are making their own websites... not just writing books or something:) Good post, good work! People.Should.Be.Aware :-) Tableitis & Divitis.

Yes, very dangerous diseases… and still like 95% of the Web is ill with them…

My last website, where I’ve used tables, was 2 years ago. Then I had 2-3 months of a “transitional” period (no tables, a lot of classes and DIVs) and then… I believe, I ewas finally cured by just learning how Dan Cederholm and Doug Bowman are making their own websites… not just writing books or something:)

Good post, good work!

People.Should.Be.Aware :-)

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-767 Robert Nyman Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:42:07 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-767 Eduardo, <blockquote>People should understand that tableless isn’t just not use tables</blockquote> Absolutely, there's much more to it. Eduardo,

People should understand that tableless isn’t just not use tables

Absolutely, there’s much more to it.

]]> By: Eduardo Figueiredo http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-761 Eduardo Figueiredo Thu, 11 Aug 2005 22:50:21 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-761 Funny terms... Disease: tableitis Cure: tableless Colateral efect: divitis People should understand that tableless isn't just not use tables. Abraço, Du. Funny terms…

Disease: tableitis
Cure: tableless
Colateral efect: divitis

People should understand that tableless isn’t just not use tables.

Abraço,
Du.

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-414 Robert Nyman Tue, 24 May 2005 20:54:49 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-414 Martin, Yes, I hope so! Of course, it's always a balance of getting the customer/employer to realize the benefits, but we're going in the right direction nowadays. Now I'm off <a href="http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/05/24/all-paths-lead-to-rome/" rel="nofollow">to Rome</a>... Martin,

Yes, I hope so!

Of course, it’s always a balance of getting the customer/employer to realize the benefits, but we’re going in the right direction nowadays.

Now I’m off to Rome…

]]> By: Martin S. http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-413 Martin S. Tue, 24 May 2005 20:46:00 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-413 That is awesome. And we have another web standards guy on eniro.se nowadays.. <a href="http://blog.visitkortet.com/" rel="nofollow">Martin Janner</a>. Great! This is going forward.. That is awesome. And we have another web standards guy on eniro.se nowadays.. Martin Janner. Great! This is going forward..

]]> By: Robert Nyman http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-410 Robert Nyman Tue, 24 May 2005 12:16:27 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-410 Martin, Thank you! Actually, a friend of mine is doing some work at DN right now, so I hope he will manage to convince them about the importance of semantics, amongst other things. Martin,

Thank you!

Actually, a friend of mine is doing some work at DN right now, so I hope he will manage to convince them about the importance of semantics, amongst other things.

]]> By: Martin S. http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-409 Martin S. Tue, 24 May 2005 11:44:49 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-409 Well explained Robert. I agree with you in every single detail. ;) But the question is: when will larger sites like dn.se and di.se start to follow these basics in XHTML and CSS?? Well explained Robert. I agree with you in every single detail. ;)

But the question is: when will larger sites like dn.se and di.se start to follow these basics in XHTML and CSS??

]]> By: Robert http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-151 Robert Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:27:38 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-151 Tommy, I couldn't agree more. It's not that hard to understand and to do it correctly. But yes, I definitely prefer div-itis over table-itis, if I had to choose between those two. :-) Tommy,

I couldn’t agree more. It’s not that hard to understand and to do it correctly.

But yes, I definitely prefer div-itis over table-itis, if I had to choose between those two. :-)

]]> By: Tommy Olsson http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-150 Tommy Olsson Tue, 19 Apr 2005 07:23:53 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-150 I am constantly amazed by the amount of web authors who don't seem to grasp this simple concept. Also, many seem to believe that DIV elements are the only ones you can style, or at least position, with CSS. Thus they wrap their UL in a DIV and float the DIV, instead of floating the UL directly. That is also a form of divitis. Well, at least it's not quite as serious a disease as the dreaded <em>tableitis</em>. :) I am constantly amazed by the amount of web authors who don’t seem to grasp this simple concept.

Also, many seem to believe that DIV elements are the only ones you can style, or at least position, with CSS. Thus they wrap their UL in a DIV and float the DIV, instead of floating the UL directly. That is also a form of divitis.

Well, at least it’s not quite as serious a disease as the dreaded tableitis. :)

]]> By: Robert http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-149 Robert Mon, 18 Apr 2005 18:33:16 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-149 Molly, Thank you for the compliment, it's an honour to be read by you! Truly! I'll link to you anytime! :-D Molly,

Thank you for the compliment, it’s an honour to be read by you! Truly!
I’ll link to you anytime! :-D

]]> By: Molly E. Holzschlag http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/18/semantics/#comment-148 Molly E. Holzschlag Mon, 18 Apr 2005 17:40:05 +0000 http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/04/16/semantics/#comment-148 Wow, great post, and thank you for the link love. I absolutely agree that what is visual belongs in CSS, what is structural in (X)HTML. Both deserve good semantics. The important thing to remember is we're all learning this together, at the same time. Makes it a little more challenging, but at least we have each other to check in with, yeah? M Wow, great post, and thank you for the link love. I absolutely agree that what is visual belongs in CSS, what is structural in (X)HTML. Both deserve good semantics. The important thing to remember is we’re all learning this together, at the same time. Makes it a little more challenging, but at least we have each other to check in with, yeah?

M

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