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	<title>Comments on: Opera</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Nyman</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/03/22/opera/#comment-623</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Nyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 10:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hallvord,

Thanks for your comment and for taking it the right way.

Regarding money, I have full understanding of the dilemma. I just think that it might make people shy away and use other web browsers, if they don't approve of the small ad space.

Upgrades are good to solve problems, but telling users to upgrade (maybe several times) isn't always a good option. And, as stated, it's a pain for web developers to test for many different version.

Maybe I'm out on thin ice here (this is but a humble pondering), but perhaps there should be more extensive testing before releasing every minor version?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallvord,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment and for taking it the right way.</p>
<p>Regarding money, I have full understanding of the dilemma. I just think that it might make people shy away and use other web browsers, if they don&#8217;t approve of the small ad space.</p>
<p>Upgrades are good to solve problems, but telling users to upgrade (maybe several times) isn&#8217;t always a good option. And, as stated, it&#8217;s a pain for web developers to test for many different version.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m out on thin ice here (this is but a humble pondering), but perhaps there should be more extensive testing before releasing every minor version?</p>
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		<title>By: Hallvord</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/03/22/opera/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator>Hallvord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2005 09:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got here via Anne v K's weblog..

I'm obviously biased here :) but if you hire people to write and test a piece of software you need money. The ad space is not annoying and quite small if you use text ads, and it is also being used for more fun and creative things like all of a sudden you'll see tips from other users about how to get the most out of Opera.

New versions and upgrades come quickly because we're trying to solve YOUR problem (or somebody else's) with some rendering issue, so that rather than wasting time working around a problem or blocking Opera-users you can tell users to just upgrade to the latest and fixed version :-)

Don't forget: Web developers have 4-5 moving targets called "web browsers". Browser vendors have 9 000 000 000+ &lt;i&gt;running&lt;/i&gt; targets called "web pages". Sometimes we think someone is thinking up another self-contradictory way to mix CSS every day..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got here via Anne v K&#8217;s weblog..</p>
<p>I&#8217;m obviously biased here <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> but if you hire people to write and test a piece of software you need money. The ad space is not annoying and quite small if you use text ads, and it is also being used for more fun and creative things like all of a sudden you&#8217;ll see tips from other users about how to get the most out of Opera.</p>
<p>New versions and upgrades come quickly because we&#8217;re trying to solve YOUR problem (or somebody else&#8217;s) with some rendering issue, so that rather than wasting time working around a problem or blocking Opera-users you can tell users to just upgrade to the latest and fixed version <img src='http://www.robertnyman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget: Web developers have 4-5 moving targets called &#8220;web browsers&#8221;. Browser vendors have 9 000 000 000+ <i>running</i> targets called &#8220;web pages&#8221;. Sometimes we think someone is thinking up another self-contradictory way to mix <acronym title="Cascading Style Sheets">CSS</acronym> every day..</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/03/22/opera/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julia,

If it does the trick for you, keep using it.
But for above mentioned reasons, it's not going to be my first choice web browser (for now, at least).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julia,</p>
<p>If it does the trick for you, keep using it.<br />
But for above mentioned reasons, it&#8217;s not going to be my first choice web browser (for now, at least).</p>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.robertnyman.com/2005/03/22/opera/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2005 20:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got into Opera when I was looking for a new email client and stumbled over M2. The more I played with it, the more I  liked it. I do think Opera takes a bit of getting used to, and is not to everyone's taste admittedly, but having taken the time to get to know it, I am sold. I do agree about the ads though. This has probably held back their popularity, as opposed to Firefox, which I also use regularly. IE is just for testing and Windows Update!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got into Opera when I was looking for a new email client and stumbled over M2. The more I played with it, the more I  liked it. I do think Opera takes a bit of getting used to, and is not to everyone&#8217;s taste admittedly, but having taken the time to get to know it, I am sold. I do agree about the ads though. This has probably held back their popularity, as opposed to Firefox, which I also use regularly. <acronym title="Internet Explorer">IE</acronym> is just for testing and Windows Update!</p>
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